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Orthodox Silence on the “Conscience Clause” – AOI – The American Orthodox Institute – USA

Orthodox Silence on the “Conscience Clause”

Most people were probably not aware that there was a fierce battle raging between the Catholic Church and the Obama administration over the “conscience clause,” a Bush-era piece of legislation that exempted medical professionals and religious institutions (primarily Catholic hospitals and schools) from dispensing birth control pills to children, performing abortions, and other morally objectionable activities. The Obama administration has been waffling on this for over two years, but last week the clause was rescinded.

Catholicculture.org outlines what is at stake (A ‘conscience clause’ is not enough). While written for an exclusively Catholic audience, the points apply to all Christians. Author Phil Lawler argues:

Unfortunately, with each passing year our society shows less and less tolerance for the individual conscience. An overweening government requires Christians to accept the prevailing moral norms even when they violate the principles of Christian morality, and powerful private institutions only add to the pressure.

Consider the restrictions that a Catholic—and especially a young Catholic—now faces on the job market. (I write from the perspective of a Catholic. But the same problems apply, with more or less equal force, to others who share the Catholic perspective on these moral issues.)

  • A Catholic who cannot in good conscience sign the “marriage” certificate of two homosexual lovers may be unable to serve as town clerk in states like that recognize same-sex marriage.
  • A Catholic pharmacist who refuses to dispense abortifacient pills may not be allowed to continue his practice, where law requires him to provide customers with the “morning-after” pill (not to mention ordinary contraceptive pills, which have abortifacient properties).
  • A Catholic innkeeper who declines to play host to the celebration of homosexual unions may be stripped of his license to take paying guests.
  • A Catholic medical student who objects to involvement in abortion or sterilization may find that only a few hospitals will consider him as an applicant for residency or internship.
  • A Catholic social worker who recognizes the injustice of placing foster children in homosexual households will be unable to find work in a state-funded adoption agency.
  • A Catholic police officer can lose his job if he hesitates to arrest someone seeking to dissuade a young woman from entering an abortion clinic.
  • A Catholic psychiatrist who clings to the age-old understanding that homosexuality is a disorder may be blackballed by his colleagues, ridiculed by the media, and possibly deprived of his professional accreditation.
  • And now a Catholic clerk who objects to cutting checks for birth-control pills will be unable to work at any American health-insurance company.

The Evangelicals recognized the threat to private conscience and joined the Catholics in resisting it.

The Orthodox unfortunately said nothing. The Episcopal Assembly was established to offer a coherent and unified voice on the critical questions facing the culture. The debate over the conscience clause was one where our voice should have been heard.


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26 responses to “Orthodox Silence on the “Conscience Clause””

  1. Michael Bauman

    We have no voice, in fact we seek to silence everyone who dares to speak out. We are dhimmi.

  2. Fr. Johannes Jacobse

    I’m not. You’re not. Lot’s of people are not. We don’t have to remain silent.

    1. Michael Bauman

      Unfortunately many of our bishops seem to be either ethno-centric dhimmi or so co-opted by the secular culture as to result in the same thing: apathetic silence.

      1. Hieromonk Mark

        What you say may be true, but don’t despair, Michael. Just keep in mind: if the people lead (either for good or for ill), the bishops will follow, because it’s the people that have the money that keeps the machine chugging along. The key is to get enough of the laity going in the right direction. That starts with each person’s commitment to living a holy and righteous life of spiritual struggle. Then the Holy Spirit can act effectively in the community. So, don’t lament; repent! Don’t dismay; pray! Don’t give up; man up! Don’t get uptight; fight! Don’t scold; be bold! Get the idea? Maranatha!

        1. Michael Bauman

          Fr. Mark, thank you for the admonition. I am sure that I am too pessimistic at timesm and know that I need to do a far better job tending to the basics of my own life of faith. The only part of your statement to which I would disagree is that the bishops will follow. Its not up to the bishops to follow or the laity to lead.

          I think that very unlikely. I think it much more likely that the Church will be split into a official church and a Church of those who acutally follow your directions. I don’t think the ethno-centric dhimmi’s, the secularist apostates and those who are living in a Chrisitan manner can long co-exist.

          The Church, probably consisting of those who now call themselves Orthodox, Catholic and Proestant, will gather around the true bishops. The cathedrals with their glorious icons will not be in the hands of those who seek Christ. We will all (I pray that it does not come in my time) be in the desert.

          Fr. Hans, if your bishop told you tonight to shut down your web site, you would be required to shut it down so you are only as free to speak out as you bishop allows. To not obey him would be a really tough line to cross. The point is that to the extent that we have dhimmi, secularist bishops, we are dhimmi and secularist at least to some degree. The dhimmi attitude has sunk deeply into the sinews of the the Church. Even in the unlikely event that we become really autocephalus, it will take generations before it begins to fade.

          1. Fr. Johannes Jacobse

            Michael, no bishop has ever asked me to shut anything down, not even intimated it. One bishop was threatened by my facility with internet communications but that was due more to his ignorance of the internet than anything else. He accused me of broadcasting a letter critical of him (something I would never do) because “you have a website and know all about the internet.” It took my best Byzantinesque appellations to dissuade him but I don’t think he was ever really convinced.

            1. Michael Bauman

              Father, I was not suggesting that any bishop has asked you to shut down merely that it is a possibility. If a truly repressed dhimmi or avidly secular bishop were your bishop (which we don’t quite have) then you, or any priest, might face the prospect of obeying the orders of the bishop or his own conscience. Not an easy decision to make and one that I hope you are spared.

              1. Fr. Hans Jacobse

                Sure, it’s always a possibility Michael but if it were to happen, I don’t see it happening at all in the Antiochian jurisdiction. In many ways this jurisdiction is very healthy. I noticed this at the Clergy-Laity Convention in Chicago this summer. Many priests, in addition to their parish responsibilities, have other projects on the side (translations, writing, blogs, and so forth) and there wasn’t even a question about it. Very encouraging, actually.

        2. alexis

          Thank you, Hieromonk Mark. I concur with your encouraging words. I also think of that illustration of the frog in the bird’s mouth with his hand squeezing the bird’s neck whilst he’s being devoured with the caption underneath that says, “DON’T GIVE UP!” I can get a bit negative at times myself with this negative information overload, but the reality in the end when all is said and done, is that Jesus Christ conquers! IC XC NI KA! The Holy Scriptures already tells us how it is going to end. Praise be to the Alpha and Omega and His Most Holy Apostolic Orthodox Catholic Church!!

  3. Andrew

    How is that Church and Society Commission of the episcoal assembly going these days Metropolitan Savas?

    Btw, reader the new Metropolitan of Pittsburgh seems to have lost his thousands of facebook postings going years back. If anyone knows where they are please contact the Chancery of the Metropolis of Pittsburgh. I am sure he would love to have them back.

    1. Greg

      “Living in the Logosphere” is the blog of the Office of Church and Society. The last post is from July 7th… 2010.

      Source: Living in the Logosphere. I was unable to find a link from goarch.org to this site.

      1. Andrew

        Can someone help clarify the following question? Does Metropolitan Savas have a doctorate from Oxford? In the Pittsburgh Post Gazette Article posted here: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11309/1187728-53-0.stm?cmpid=news.xml Anne Rodgers seems to claim him does but when you read the GOA biography no mention is made of such a degree? Does anyone know the correct answer?

        Btw, Greg one thing I have learned over the years is that Metropolitan Savas loves to present himself as this tech savy bishop who takes all questions and makes the Church relevant. The reality is the opposite, he cannot handle serious questions and avoids them often hiding behind platitudes. He is much more concerned with being socially accepted than teaching the Tradition of the Church. He is afraid to go on the record. Have we ever read any articles or sermons by him despite his profound reputation for being a bishop in the blogosphere?…..no he hides behind the words of other writers using the posts of others to express his opinions knowing if he gets in trouble he can say they are not his own words.

        And then you have to ask why does he have to delete all those facebook postings from his account?

        Remember Metropolitan Maximos went against the stream and was the only GOA Bishop to sign the Amicus Curae Brief against Partial Birth Abortion that was presented before the US Supreme Court. I also remember him being the only GOA bishop to support Terri Schiavo. Metropolitan Savas has shown that he is incapable of taking this type of action.

        Everyone wants to cheer the new Metropolitan of Pittsburgh who is hip, cool and has 4000+ facebook friends and will bring the young folks back to Church. However, once all the cheering dies down reality if often very different and often disappointing. We saw this with Metropolitan Gerasimos in San Francisco.

        1. Greg

          RE Metropolitan Savas loves to present himself as this tech savy bishop who takes all questions and makes the Church relevant. The reality is the opposite…

          Seeing that his last blog post was almost 1 1/2 years ago, that’s kind of the impression I got. Too bad.

        2. Chris Banescu

          Andrew, Bishop Savas does not have a doctorate from Oxford. He only took a few courses at Oxford and never completed any kind of degree there.

          He [Bishop Savas] served as the pastoral assistant at Holy Trinity/St. Nicholas in Cincinnati, Ohio from 1985-87 before resuming his academic studies at Oxford University, England, from 1987 until 1994, under the supervision of then Bishop Kallistos (Ware) of Diokleia, researching texts and persons of spiritual significance for the histoy of early Byzantine monasticism.
          http://www.goarch.org/news/metsavaselection-11032011

          1. Andrew

            Chris so the question before us then is where did Anne Rodgers at the Post Gazette get the idea Met. Savas has a doctorate for he November 5th Article?

            Hmmmmm…….

  4. alexis

    IT HAS TO COME FROM THE PULPITS ON A REGULAR BASIS!! IT TELLS ME A LOT WHEN I SEE IN THE “ORTHODOX OBSERVER’S” FRONT PAGE EVERY JANUARY NO MENTION OF THE SUNDAY OF HOLY INNOCENTS AND/OR ANY MENTION ABOUT ROE V. WADE!! WHY CAN’T ALL “CHRISTIAN” CHURCHES DECLARE A 24-HOUR VIGIL ACROSS THE NATION, OF PRAYER AND FASTING FOR THE UNBORN AND THE UNHOLY LAWS THAT ARE DESIGNED FOR THEIR DEMISE?!! SILENCE IS ANOTHER WAY OF CONDONING. WHY DO I HAVE TO HEAR THE ISSUES FROM TELEVANGELISTS LIKE PASTOR JOHN HAGEE AND DR. JAMES DOBSON?! THIS SILENCE REMINDS ME OF EDMUND BURKE’S STATEMENT WHICH DECLARES, “THE ONLY THING NECESSARY FOR THE TRIUMPH OF EVIL IS FOR GOOD MEN TO DO NOTHING.”

    1. Greg

      I don’t know what the Orthodox are doing, but among Protestants and Catholics there is an active anti-abortion movement. I am personally aware of a number of Protestant churches that support CareNet (https://www.care-net.org/). I also know that more than a few Catholic Church groups in my area conduct regular prayer vigils and other ministries at local abortion-mills (http://www.usccb.org/about/pro-life-activities/). All of this is in addition to the annual pro-life rally held every January at the state capital.

      Perhaps interested Orthodox Christians should contact their state pro-life organization to find out what’s going on in their area and join in. For example (I googled the places where there are a lot of Orthodox.):

      California ProLife Council
      New York State Right to Life
      Illinois Right to Life Committee
      New Jersey Right to Life
      Massachusetts Citizens For Life
      Pennsylvania Pro-Life Federation
      Prolife Florida

  5. Rob

    I’m curious about the town clerk episode: there are a considerable number of second, third and fourth marriages that are entered into that are not valid from either a biblical perspective or a Catholic/Orthodox one (Luke 16:18). There are also a number of interfaith marriages that would not be performed by many denominations (such as one for a Christian and a Jew). I can’t recall hearing of a town clerk ever objecting to these marriages or even doing sufficient investigation to be able to do so, but would they be able to follow their consciences in these instances and deny these marriage certificates? I can’t imagine they have that freedom (but I could be wrong).

    I’m all for freedom of conscience (most specifically regarding abortion-related matters), but I also don’t wish to call out “Persecution!” where none exists …

    1. Anil Wang

      From a Catholic perspective it comes down to natural law.

      It’s easy to explain to an objective atheist how gay marriages are objectively disordered and lead to the destruction of society, but without revelation, it’s not clear that interfaith marriages are (at least any more so than marriages between two people who have drastically different life goals). Historically and genetically no culture before our modern age has ever considered gay marriages, and those that allowed widespread non-state acknowledged and frowned upon but allowed gay unions fell apart quickly. Also polygamy and child brides are common in many cultures, yet both are taboo for politicians and judges and feminists, while the other is considered enlightened. This defies logic. Logically (without revelation), you can reject both or accept both, but you cannot accept gay marriage and deny either polygamy or child brides.

      But in any case, if you wish to truly call yourself a tolerant culture, you must allow town clerks to reject marrying on the conscious grounds you suggest, or even if in good conscious, the town clerk believes that the marriage will be damaging to one or both parties. The key reason for this is that either the town clerk is either just a contract registrar or you are trying to register something with a concept that existed before the state and lawyers even existed (usually a religious concept). If the former, then any legal civil contract between any number or kind of people must be registered (e.g. people can have pets in their wills whether it is prudent or not) . If the later, you cannot avoid conscious exemptions and neither the state nor lawyers can pretend that one is the same as the other.

      1. Rob

        Anil: Is a Christian acting on behalf of the government morally obligated to disobey an unjust command of that same government when the opportunity presents itself? Further, what constitutes an unjust law which, in your mind, should allow for “opting out”, as you suggest? Do the parameters change depending on the gravity of the situation?

        Complicating this question is whether a Christian is bound to obey the laws of the government which we acknowledge is ordained by God in this life as a means of establishing order in a sinful world. (Romans 13:3-4)

        What I think you’re suggesting is a Christian civil servant ought to be free to enforce or not enforce any law they choose so long as it’s done under the guise of sincere religious belief. (Wasn’t this a criticism of Obama when he refused to enforce DOMA, by the way?) The problem is that religious beliefs differ, often wildly. Church members in Gulnare Free Will Baptist Church in Pike County, Kentucky, recently voted to ban interracial marriage and dating. Wrong-headed and unbiblical as those opinions may be, I’m unwilling to suggest these believers didn’t actually believe that this opinion reflected God’s will on the matter. Were one of those members a town clerk, should they have been free to “opt out” of granting a civil marriage license to the couple they ousted?

        Thankfully, I work in a field where there is virtually no opportunity for these types of morally ambiguous situations to present themselves, but I find the topic intriguing, anyhow.

        1. Anil Wang

          “What I think you’re suggesting is a Christian civil servant ought to be free to enforce or not enforce any law they choose so long as it’s done under the guise of sincere religious belief.”

          Actually I’m not. There are things that predate all forms of governments, such as marriages and parental relationships and there are other things that exist only with governments, such as common infrastructure, trash delivery, police forces, etc. This distinction needs to be made. In areas that are derived by governments, they made it, so they can make the rules and any civil servant that wants to pick and choose what he wants to enforce may rightfully be dismissed. But in the pre-government areas, the only reason government can legislate is precisely because it helps the government-derived areas work and it is only because “community standards” allow for such consensus to be made. As such conscious clauses are necessary precisely because community standards change. Take worship as an example. If there are a high percentage of Christians in an area “community standards” might define that only Christian worship is allowed. It’s similarly the case in a Muslim reason. But no government has the authority to legislate either “community standard” without providing conscious exceptions.

  6. Mack Hall

    Democracy must not be a spectator sport, we must vote in every election, down to school board. We get exactly the government for which we vote.

    1. Michael Bauman

      Mack, we get the government for which the most people vote (maybe). We get the cadidates with the most money to spend and who cover up their past the best and appeal in the (generally) most demogogic manner and, frequently, use tax payer funds to essentially buy votes.

      At least one recent Presidential election was decided by the “votes” of dead people in Chicago cemetaries (Kennedy vs Nixon).

      Who knows for sure what the vote was in Florida (Bush vs Gore).

      While it is a dead issue since we have unconstitutionally opted for a democracy over a representative republic, it is nevertheless important to retain the distinction. Democracy is a spectator sport fueled by passions and ideology that eventually leads to a complete breakdown of legitimate governmental functions and a return to tyranny.

      The ultimate Bread and Circus.

  7. Mack Hall

    And I must get my semi-colons right. Apologies to all.

  8. alexis

    We just need to keep our noses in the new Holy Orthodox Bible, our stomachs growling with fasting, our hearts prone to giving, our minds and bodies humbled with prayer, and our voices heard. Like the great George Michaelopolos (sorry if I spelled your name wrong, Brother Monomakhos) says, “Keep On Keepin’ On!” God bless you all and this most excellent website!!

  9. cynthia curran

    St Stylianos of Paphlagonia (26 November/9 December). He is a patron saint of small children, and a healer of those with infertility. He is usually portrayed as holding an infant in his arms; he was an ascetic who lived in the 6th century AD. His veneration is very widespread in Greece and Cyprus.
    Five years ago, in Limassol, an Orthodox priest in Cyprus founded a shelter for victims of the sex trade; it has returned 300 sex slaves to mainstream society. Some former prostitutes marry their clients, but not all of them find happiness in such marriages. Archpriest Savva Michaelides, rector of the Russian church of St Stylianos in Limassol founded this ministry. He told the website Татьянин день (Tatyani Dyen: Tatiana’s Day) that most of the rescued girls were willing to testify to the authorities, most of these women stay in Cyprus and find normal jobs. Some have returned to their homelands, preferring not to testify to the police. According to Fr Savva, in Europe, there is only one other such shelter founded by a clergyman. It is in Italy, in Rimini, founded by a Catholic priest. Pimps threatened Fr Savva, but he ignored their threats. He said, “I just did my duty, and I credit everything to the action of Divine Providence. Eventually, I’ll die. It doesn’t matter how long we live on this earth. It doesn’t matter whether we die a violent or a natural death. Our true motherland is in heaven, and one day we’ll all stand before God for judgement”.
    Fr Savva told us that there were cases when clients helped sex slaves to escape. Some prostitutes married their clients. However, such marriages are rarely good ones. He said, “Unfortunately, many of their husbands are accustomed to satisfying low sexual appetites and don’t know how to build a psychological relationship with a wife. They are used to a variety of women [as sex partners]. They don’t know what stability in a relationship means. Men who frequent brothels often don’t realise that a woman is not only a body, she has a soul as well”. Fr Savva thinks that the Church should explain to people that “free love” leads not only to sexually transmitted diseases, but also to diseases of the soul. He said that sexual relationships before marriage were a disgrace for both women and men. As a precaution, he believes that young people should only meet in the presence of others.
    Fr Savva believes that any prostitute, regardless of the degree of her involvement in sin, and regardless of the time she spent in this activity, can become a saint in the Church through repentance, as did St Mary of Egypt. He recounted to us that he had seen such miracles of repentance, saying, “A person isn’t a glass cup, which can’t glue itself back together if it’s broken”. This is great he is right about sexual relations and he is a priest in Cyprus that has helped 300 girls from escaping the sex trade and has good advice on sexual matters.

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