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Israel Loses Turkey, Gains Greece as Strategic Partner – AOI – The American Orthodox Institute – USA

Israel Loses Turkey, Gains Greece as Strategic Partner

Israel’s shift away from Turkey to Greece will have ramifications for the Ecumenical Patriarchate (and the US Greek lobby) as well.

Source: National Herald

Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou
Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou

Israel has finally moved on from its fractured relationship with Turkey – notwithstanding the impression conveyed by some US and Israeli circles that the damage is not beyond repair. This week, the Israeli Minister of Trade and Labor Minister, Binyamin Ben-Eliezer made last-ditch bid to save the relationship by initiating a meeting in Zurich with Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutolu. It went badly and was hotly debated at the Israeli cabinet meeting Sunday, July 4. Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu said he thought it was worth a try, but most ministers said that given Ankara’s harsh hostility, it should never have taken place.

Meanwhile, as Western and Turkish media outlets harped on Israel’s loss of its only Muslim ally in the Middle East, Jerusalem was busy acquiring a new strategic partner: Greece, a NATO member like Turkey with plenty of Middle East interests, has shown interest in stepping into Turkey’s shoes and investing in stronger military and intelligence ties.

DEBKA-Net-Weekly 450 reported on June 25 from sources in Athens and Jerusalem that this development was not so much planned in Jerusalem as initiated by Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou, who boasts many Jewish and Israeli friends and business contacts, some of whom hold high political and intelligence positions in Israel. He saw Athens’ chance to slot into Ankara’s place in Jerusalem and transform their present diplomatic, economic, military and intelligence ties into a thriving strategic alliance, that would carry the same advantages to both sides as did Israel’s former relations with Turkey.

According to some sources, Papandreou also hopes this alliance will help ease some of his country’s financial woes. But most of all, he is looking to Israel for help in speeding the upgrade of his armed forces and helping transform them into the Christian mainstay of NATO in the Balkans and southern Europe – in place of the Muslim Turkish army.

This notion was not the direct outcome of Israel’s break with Turkey or the clash aboard the Turkish Mavi Marmara on May 31 between Israeli commandos and pro-Palestinian Turkish activists. It has been evolving for some time, first broached in the summer of 2008 when Papandreou allowed 100 Israeli F-15 and F-16 fighter-bombers to pass through Greek Mediterranean air space for practicing long flights and in-flight fueling.

The distance between Israel and Greece there and back is 1,900 kilometers, identical to the distance between Israel and Iran.

The Greek prime minister went out of his way to be of assistance, making available to the Israeli Air Force the crews and advanced S-300 PMU1interceptor missile batteries Athens purchased from Russia back in 2000. They were allowed to practice bombing sorties against these batteries, in case Moscow decided to sell them to Iran and Syria.

The severe financial crisis besetting Greece this year enhanced the friendly ties between Athens and Jerusalem. While European Union countries spent long months discussing whether to bail Greece out and save it from collapse (eventually granting a €110 billion package), Papandreou turned to Jewish financial titans in Europe and the United States for help to keep the Greek economy afloat.


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16 responses to “Israel Loses Turkey, Gains Greece as Strategic Partner”

  1. George Michalopulos

    I wonder how this is going to play with the anti-Israeli faction within certain quarters of American Orthodoxy?

    1. Joseph

      Michael, “anti-Israel faction within certain quarters of American Orthodoxy????” Why not name these certain quarters? Is it the OCA? Me thinks not….

      1. James

        Joseph, unfortunately there is considerable anti-Israeli feeling in the Antiochian Archdiocese.

        1. George Michalopulos

          Joseph, you’re right. My broader point however is that this is one of the problems with the colonialist view of Orthodoxy –“Ghetto Orthodoxy” for short. It’s going to be hard for the Colonialists to ever merge with the OCA into a newer, larger autocephalous American Church as long as they continue to carry their ancient feuds on our shores.

          1. It’s going to be hard for the Colonialists to ever merge with the OCA into a newer, larger autocephalous American Church as long as they continue to carry their ancient feuds on our shores.

            Ahem! Tell that to AIPAC (of course, not quite an exact analogy, as most AIPAC supporters haven’t come from Palestine: just sticking their nose-and hands-into some one else’s business).

            As I recall, when the Evangelical Orthodox were received, the issue came up, as many had the Zionist tinged “theology” of Hagae etc. Met. Philip or one of the other bishops said “don’t worry, we’ll take care of the Zioniest entity ourselves. You need not get involved.”

            I’ve know plenty of anti-Zionist sentiment in GOARCH, but in the OCA as well. Why an autocephalous Church of North America need be yoked to a colonialist synagogue run amock in Palestine, I don’t quite understand.

        2. Michael Bauman

          James, you put it mildly. A shame on us and those who promote it!

          1. Geo Michalopulos

            Michael: Amen. Israel, for all its faults, is a western, liberal democracy. Very much a creature of Western Civilization. Indeed, what struck me about this piece was the phrase “Athens and Jerusalem.” I first saw this in an essay by the late Jaroslav Pelikan. He may have been the first person to use it. Anyway, since then, I’ve seen this phrase pop up everywhere. For all its faults, Western Civilization is very much the product of “Athens and Jerusalem” which is another way of saying “the Church” in my opinion.

  2. cynthia curran

    This is a interesting development. One of the issues that has kept conservative orthodox and evangelical protestants from a distance from each other politically has been the Isreal issue. Granted, both sides will still disagree concerning the fact that some palestians are Orthodox, maybe the relationship between Greece and Isreal will make things easier for Palestinians who are christian. Maybe, then more Conservative Protestants and Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox can agree to help each other on the cultural issues in the States because of this development.

    1. It will further strengthen the Phanariots’ grip on Jerusalem, to worship the tomb as they kill off the Church there. Between them and the Hebrew Orthodox (Jews are converting in numbers, a welcome development, but not without adverse side effects, among them the disappearance of the Palestinians who stayed the last two millenia in the Holy Land.).

  3. Geo Michalopulos

    Isa, that’s a good point. One reason I’ve restrained myself from criticizing AIPAC was because of my own blood ties I felt that American foreign policy should be more sympathetic to Greece than to Turkey. For a long time, many Conservatives were pro-Turkey during the Cold War, viewing Turkey as more strategically important (it was) but also put off by the Greeks’ anti-Americanism, so it was an uphill battle we Greek-Americans were fighting. Therefore, criticizing AIPAC would make me a world-class hypocrite. In the end though, I think it doesn’t matter, the correllation of forces is such that Huntington’s “civilizational fault-lines” are clearly being drawn. Despite its great anti-Americanism, Greece is and always be a part of the West. The same thing for all European countries. That goes for Russia too. I know Israel isn’t a European country but its philosophical (if not demographic) roots are definately Western. Israel may be one of the flashpoints in the “clash of civilizations” but it certainly isn’t the only one.

    As to your other point, Jews converting to Orthodoxy, can you point me to any websites about that? That sounds fascinating.

    1. I’ll have to look when I have time, but a priest from NZ of ROCOR has posted some stories on this:it’s not widely publicized because of the explosive nature. I saw it firsthand, however, when I was in Jerusalem in the early 90’s. The Hebrew Orthodox may be the largest group in the Patriarcate in Palestine.

      1. George Michalopulos

        well, maybe they can wrest control of the patriarchate from us Greeks. We’ve done a piss-poor job over there. For the life of me, I couldn’t understand why the Palestinian Orthodox in America were so beholden to the previous patriarch there. His collusion with the Israelis and over all corruption were legendary. To say nothing of how the JP has almost totally excluded Arabs from positions of leadership.

        1. I can only attribute it to the adage “the devil you know…”

  4. cynthia curran

    Well, George both Rodney Stark and Paul Johnson thought that Jews converted a lot during the Roman Empire. At the of Jesus about 15 percent of the Roman Empire was Jewish and by about 400 about 5 percent and during the middle ages down to 2 percent.

  5. cynthia curran

    Well, George Athens and Jerusalem was first use by Terullian. He stated what does Athens have to do with Jerusalem.

  6. cynthia curran

    Sorry, I was thinking of Christianity. He is talking about Jewish Orthodoxy which is not suprising since a lot of Jews are tired of being secular jews.

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