- Fr. Josiah Trenham: Protecting Religious Freedom [AUDIO] [6]
"In an egalitarian world no one can refuse what the majority can... – Mar 26, 9:26 AM
This is what happens when law and ideology replaces moral consensus. Egalitarianism... – Mar 16, 10:01 PM
- The American Orthodox 'Historiographical Problem' [118]
The photo from 1921was taken before Meletios Metaxakis was enthroned as Patriarch... – Mar 23, 9:48 PM
- Wesley J. Smith: A Dark Mirror on Society [1]
[…] […] – Mar 06, 8:27 PM
- Information, Creativity, and Surprise [10]
Nor do I. Irrefutable facts are refuted in time. It is shifting... – Mar 04, 10:55 PM
Brian, I don't believe in "science" as the arbitor and decider of... – Mar 03, 2:12 PM
Well then, my apologies to Greg. I only frequent a few favorite... – Mar 01, 12:23 PM
- Ground Zero Mosque: a “Rabat”, not a “Cultural Center” [78]
[…] And now a monster mosque. This is not an Islamic center,... – Mar 01, 8:27 AM
[…] And now a monster mosque. This is not an Islamic center,... – Mar 01, 7:35 AM
- Patsourakos: An "icon" of Stalin is sacrilege [9]
This is an agenda from the communist party and people who hate... – Feb 28, 10:10 PM
- A Miracle by Elder Paisios [13]
I think what Fr Hans is suggesting is that "dogmatic atheism" rejects... – Feb 26, 10:12 PM
Thank you Father for this beautiful account of Jeremiah's healing, it moved... – Feb 23, 2:56 PM
If two doctors sincerely told you (a priest) that they had no... – Feb 01, 9:35 PM
- How the West is Helping to Destroy Christianity in... [24]
[…] HT: Alfred the Great Society and AOI […] – Feb 21, 10:26 PM
[…] judgment. And in many ways, it would do a lot of... – Oct 08, 8:53 AM
Thank you Francis Frost...I will be praying for the Lord's people to... – Sep 06, 10:19 AM
Can be an act done by the command of Al Qaeda, to... – Sep 03, 5:29 AM
- Is Religious Freedom in Peril? [14]
This article reads as if it was written by a homosexual but... – Feb 15, 9:15 PM
Fr. Hans claims, “The truth is there is no real fidelity and... – Feb 01, 9:55 PM
The breakdown of monogamous marriage (including it's redefinition as a lifestyle choice... – Jan 16, 9:30 PM
I did catch that piece, actually. I'm not sure I agree with... – Jan 16, 5:23 PM
- Estocin: Four Orthodox Christian Lessons from Martin Luther King... [2]
Jesse Jackson used to be a committed and articulate pro-lifer. Then he... – Feb 15, 9:11 PM
Just a shame that the politics of race in this country have... – Feb 15, 10:35 AM
- Patriarch Kirill wants monastery that was Gulag to be... [1]
[…] https://www.aoiusa.org/patriarch-kirill-wants-monastery-that-was-gulag-to-be-spiritual-center/ […] – Feb 12, 5:31 AM
- How the Faith was Lost in the Church of... [10]
George, who invites those ‘illegal’ immigrants? Which free trade agreement has destroyed... – Feb 11, 7:40 PM
Some nice thoughts, but they fly in the face of reality:the virtual... – Jan 12, 12:09 PM
George, who invites those 'illegal' immigrants? Which free trade agreement has destroyed... – Jan 12, 11:59 AM
Economics is not subject to politics or money printing policies. It is... – Jan 11, 12:44 AM
- Have Icon, Will Travel [3]
[…] Have Icon, Will Travel Alexander F. C. Webster, American Orthodox Institute... – Jan 27, 12:32 AM
Thank you, Peter and Helen. Sorry to disappoint, but that was the... – Jan 24, 8:42 PM
Can't wait for more installments. – Jan 24, 5:28 PM
- Episcopal Church is Going to the Dogs [34]
“Life in Christ” by Fr. John Breck March 2, 2004 “POKER”, R.I.P.... – Jan 26, 9:58 PM
- Pat. Bartholomew: No to Homosexual Marriage [22]
I am saddened at the tone of the debate especially from Moscow.... – Jan 21, 8:29 PM
Evidently, you know nothing about Orthodox Christianity. Every morning and night we... – Oct 06, 3:57 AM
Rostislav, do you suppose that devout Christians can sin and offend God... – Oct 05, 11:17 AM
I don't believe that sexual minorities engaging in propaganda to demonize religious... – Oct 04, 11:04 AM
- Why Women Were Never Priests [24]
What constitutes "feminization"? Most priests I grew up with were good, charitable... – Jan 06, 4:44 PM
One a church becomes feminized, it invariably becomes homosexualized, and then it... – Jan 04, 7:45 PM
- Pat. Bartholomew: Christmas Enyclical Affirms Unborn Life and Traditional... [1]
A refreshing breeze! This is vivifying! Axios! Axios! Axios! – Dec 27, 9:48 PM
- A Patriarch who 'Generally Speaking, Respects Human Life' [88]
[…] of the unborn life reached no deeper than the shallow logic... – Dec 24, 10:19 PM
- Socrates in the City: Eric Metaxas interviews Dr. Stephen... [1]
Thank you for sharing this. It was refreshing to hear an actual... – Dec 22, 8:39 AM
- WND: Bonhoeffer in Harlem [2]
Look [link below] at what has happened to Dr. Walter Duncan Buchanan's... – Dec 15, 9:13 AM
- “There’s Plenty of Freedom, But Little Truth”: Solzhenitsyn Remembered [4]
[…] are the owner of this image, please contact me. Posted on... – Dec 11, 6:48 AM
- Pope Francis and Poverty [5]
[…] […] – Dec 08, 6:24 PM
Watch the interview at this link: http://live.wsj.com/video/opinion-pope-franciss-attack-on-capitalism/27CBA652-BE78-4952-AB3F-BBE7B0725C2D.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_VideoModule_1#!27CBA652-BE78-4952-AB3F-BBE7B0725C2D – Dec 02, 2:53 PM
Thanks for posting this excellent analysis, Fr. Hans. Samuel Gregg will be... – Dec 01, 1:33 PM
Well, a lot of conservatives and National Review in general have too... – Dec 01, 10:31 AM
- Fr. Robert Sirico Broadens the Discussion on Religion, Freedom... [1]
Help Americans become artisans again with 3-d printing and robots. – Dec 07, 10:45 PM
- Dylan Pahman: Climate Change, the Green Patriarch, and the... [1]
Well, he should encouraged liberals in the US that have a lot... – Dec 07, 10:10 PM
- What George Washington Shows Us In His First Thanksgiving... [2]
Happy Thanksgiving to you Dean! – Nov 28, 11:04 PM
Thanks for publishing this Fr. Hans! Illuminating to say the least. Happy... – Nov 28, 2:40 PM
- Fr. John Whiteford Asks: What is the Mainstream Orthodox... [86]
I think what we have here is a three-level argument, pitting definitions... – Nov 24, 10:52 PM
Hi, Leo-- It might help to clarify things, to explain that the... – Nov 24, 10:17 PM
- An Eastern Orthodox Case for Property Rights [13]
ccording to the 2010 census, Mississippi’s population was 2,984,926. The Mississippi Department... – Nov 21, 12:44 AM
The Farmers law deals with farm ownership among free peasantry. Its dated... – Nov 21, 12:08 AM
Well, I follow Milton Friedman view you can't have unlimited immigration in... – Nov 21, 12:01 AM
Well, the environmental issue is more difficult since the Byzantines followed Roman... – Nov 20, 11:45 PM
- Dr. Bruce Foltz Speaks About “The Truth of Nature” [2]
[…] Ms. Martha Carlisle offered an inspiring review of the inaugural year... – Nov 18, 8:58 AM
What? “Akathist in Praise of God’s Creation”? Blessed are you, mother earth,... – Nov 12, 2:17 PM
- Met. Hilarion: The Voice of the Church Must Be... [2]
[…] Met. Hilarion: The Voice of the Church Must Be Prophetic […] – Nov 16, 12:04 PM
Is this an example of an iron fist in a velvet glove?... – Nov 16, 11:26 AM
- Limited Time Free eBook Offer: An Orthodox Christian Perspective... [3]
Greg, I for one plan on reading the economic part of the... – Nov 15, 10:37 AM
To get an idea where this is coming from: PERC is a... – Nov 14, 5:08 PM
My wife downloaded the book for me on her iPad. Only time... – Nov 09, 7:32 PM
- Chris Banescu: Bishop Savas is Wrong on Taxes on... [42]
If Dauman paid the rate you cite in your article, or ever... – Nov 03, 11:24 PM
- How the West Really Lost God: A New Theory... [15]
St Paul just states it simplifying when he was in Athens and... – Nov 02, 12:15 AM
Mr. Bauman, I heartily recommend Prof. Lasch's book (one is offered -... – Oct 26, 11:46 PM
M. Stankovich, In addition to technological man there is also homo economicus... – Oct 26, 10:29 AM
If you read Fr. Schmemann's Problems of Orthodoxy in America, written in... – Oct 25, 8:23 PM
- The War on Humans [67]
"The relationship between Amenhotep IV and the priests of Amun-Re gradually deteriorated.... – Oct 31, 1:02 AM
Well, there are some similarities between the Hebrew, Mesopotamian and Egypt views... – Oct 31, 12:57 AM
Michael, It is the latter, 2.) simple epigenetic adaptation to the environment,... – Oct 30, 9:41 PM
Brian, your statement is quite good. I think much the same way.... – Oct 30, 12:08 PM
- Human Trafficking Enters A New Marketplace: Organ Harvesting [3]
I was young when kidney transplants became viable and mass marketed, not... – Oct 21, 9:24 PM
"Pernicious biological colonialism..." That is exactly what it is. – Oct 21, 12:49 PM
Pakistan has tried to protect its citizens from this pernicious biological colonialism... – Oct 21, 10:53 AM
- ‘We have reached consensus on the autocephaly procedure’ [41]
[…] и разлики во нијансите. Имено на последната конференција во Шамбези (крај... – Oct 07, 10:19 AM
- Lessons from Byzantium [13]
[…] HT: American Orthodox Institute […] – Oct 02, 4:45 PM
- Politics, Ideas, and the West [1]
While studying at the University of Michigan, I fundamentally revised my views... – Oct 02, 5:21 AM
- Orthodox Christians Respond to LGBT Protest With Joint Prayer... [19]
For the record, people who have come to the Russian Orthodox churches... – Oct 02, 4:42 AM
Well, I am Russian, read, speak and write Russian, and I have... – Oct 02, 4:28 AM
Father, I find it all too ironic that certain people will try... – Oct 02, 4:25 AM
Learn Russian and see what this law has led to - increase... – Sep 12, 4:29 PM
- Over 1/2 Million New Members to be received into... [73]
Are these people going to be pretend Greeks or pretend Russians? – Sep 24, 7:21 PM
- Turning the World Upside Down: Five Ideas for Orthodox... [4]
It is not just the reminders, but the modeling that counts. Are... – Sep 18, 8:50 AM
Actually, Andrew refers to this on point #2 "Morality Matters" when he... – Sep 17, 2:28 PM
Great article but with a glaring exception, which is the center and... – Sep 17, 10:15 AM
This is a truly wonderful word to all Orthodox Christians no matter... – Sep 14, 12:34 PM
- An Open Letter from His Eminence Metropolitan Philip to... [8]
Mr. Obama has stated quite clearly in speeches and his books that... – Sep 13, 11:46 PM
I think it's irrational to insist that our nation's leaders are plotting... – Sep 10, 9:40 PM
Irrational fear and hatred of Obama? How so? – Sep 09, 11:32 PM
Why do so many have this irrational hatred and fear of Obama?... – Sep 09, 9:57 PM
- Orthodox Christian Statement Opposing Military Action Against Syria [2]
The hypocrisy of this administration simply astounds me. Doc Holliday says in... – Sep 11, 8:37 AM
I strongly support opposition to US military attack on Syrian forces, which... – Sep 10, 10:54 AM
- Metropolitan Hilarion Believes that Western Countries Tend to Dictatorship [22]
These discussions would benefit from integrating the lessons of economic history. The... – Sep 10, 10:12 AM
Christians don't have to stand by passively in all of this. They... – Aug 30, 8:39 AM
David, you write that "Secularism aims to protect the freedoms of people... – Aug 28, 9:21 AM
Mr. Bradshaw, There two recent interesting studies, one published as a systematic... – Aug 27, 1:09 PM
- A Good Priest can be Recognized by the Way... [1]
Wonderful piece. Bishop Kallistos of Diokleia, quoting St Ignatius: The Church is... – Sep 08, 1:19 PM
- Dn. Kuraev: Can an Orthodox Become an Evolutionist? [48]
[…] Dn. Kuraev: Can an Orthodox Become an Evolutionist? […] – Sep 06, 4:46 AM
- Ecumenical Patriarchate: American 'Diaspora' must submit to Mother Church [346]
Dean: I would like to connect with as we may be related.... – Sep 05, 5:26 PM
- The Orthodox Church of Tomorrow - Revisted [29]
Greetings! Just got a link to this on FB; a good article,... – Sep 01, 8:16 AM
[…] a burning love and drive in his soul to which I... – Aug 30, 10:57 AM
- Fr. Patrick Henry Reardon: Delegation to Syria [32]
[…] https://www.aoiusa.org/fr-patrick-henry-reardon-delegation-to-syria/ […] – Sep 01, 6:22 AM
- 'Tolerance' is a Demanding Mistress [10]
I chuckled when I read the complaint in Michael Petrelis blog that... – Aug 30, 10:12 AM
Mr. Petrelis, I would be interested in what your outreach to St.... – Aug 27, 12:21 PM
It came through as a Google alert. Michael, with a name like... – Aug 25, 6:51 AM
Hello, I am one of the organizers of tomorrow's picket line with... – Aug 24, 9:11 PM
- Antiochian Orthodox Church Affirms Traditional Marriage [55]
“So you, son of man: I have made you a watchman for... – Aug 29, 3:08 PM
Wonderful! Pardon me for misunderstanding. – Aug 21, 11:22 AM
James, you are not a victim. You have a cross, but everyone... – Aug 21, 7:59 AM
- George Gilder Has A Very Big, Economy Boosting Idea [4]
Another point. If the universe was indeed random (no overarching or penetrating... – Aug 27, 5:26 PM
James, the real problem with evolutionary theory is that it is based... – Aug 27, 4:56 PM
My knowledge of evolutionary theory is limited, and I'm hoping someone can... – Aug 26, 8:51 PM
The creation myth of Darwinism will crumble in time. – Aug 23, 9:12 AM
- Coptic Pope Blasts Muslim Brotherhood, US, EU. Is Washington... [7]
It was done to address concerns that the Greeks would dominate. It... – Aug 27, 11:28 AM
The impression left is that the Orthodox Church has nothing to say.... – Aug 23, 4:15 PM
That is what it means. There was a response prepared and ready... – Aug 23, 2:28 PM
That means 5 out of 66 can block it. – Aug 23, 11:48 AM
- The "Arab Spring" and the Plight of the Coptic... [3]
White House Jokes About Christians Being Murdered in Egypt Every day is... – Aug 22, 12:42 AM
Copts "thanking" Obama for the events in Egypt "At least 60 Churches... – Aug 20, 6:49 PM
Copts under the Gun: Religious Freedom in Egypt [Note: the following is... – Aug 20, 5:48 PM
- Listening to Young Atheists: Lessons for a Stronger Christianity [21]
Thanks, Dr. S, for your thoughtful reflection on the "new" atheists, particularly... – Aug 20, 12:36 PM
James, this is an Eastern Orthodox blog and Eastern Orthodox is a... – Aug 18, 4:48 PM
How much smarter can you be when you adopt an ideology predicated... – Aug 17, 4:35 PM
I must say that in reading your observations, you speak of a... – Aug 16, 1:46 AM
- When Orthodox Bishops Spoke Boldly: Clear Teaching on Marriage... [40]
Why Orthodox Men Love Church Many men may not love church, but... – Aug 19, 8:32 PM
By comparative standards, the rule of Holy Royal Martyr Nicholas II was... – Aug 03, 9:48 PM
"Rule by the Philosopher King was the ideal"... Who did you have... – Aug 03, 8:48 AM
Well, it seems that early Christians whether clergy or the state dealt... – Jul 30, 6:59 PM
- FOX News: Why Jesus and Comic Books Need Each... [18]
Cynthia, I apologize for not seeing this earlier, but when I saw... – Aug 15, 3:33 PM
Me too, I've hade my differences with Fr Arey but he's definately... – Aug 14, 10:08 AM
Seraphim in Hagia Sophia they uncovered again has different positions so someone... – Aug 12, 5:50 PM
Please pardon me if I appeared as "endorsing" or potshooting. Ciprofloxacin or... – Aug 08, 12:46 PM
- Eastern Right: Conservative Minds Convert to Orthodox Christianity [13]
Many priests and bishops defend life in the womb and are outspoken... – Aug 14, 10:43 PM
When Eastern Orthodoxy cares more about the unborn child in the womb... – Aug 14, 5:32 PM
- Papal Theologian: Treating Homosexuals with Dignity Means Telling Them... [7]
I hardly think that the Holy Fathers illumined by the HOLY SPIRIT... – Aug 14, 2:18 AM
Such simple disagreements lead to wars. The Copts actually cheered when the... – Aug 13, 8:37 PM
The Church is the BODY of CHRIST fulfilling humanity and those who... – Jul 10, 3:40 PM
Look, the man is speaking historically, not theologically. Sure, there is no... – Jul 10, 8:17 AM
- Reflections on the Ancient Faith Today Progam: Christianity and... [161]
Consider the difference that twenty years make. Twenty years ago, I had... – Aug 04, 8:04 PM
Today marks the the 27th anniversary of the falling asleep in the... – Aug 04, 12:03 PM
- Priests Don't Answer Emails [10]
Well, that would be me. I'm pretty good at answering stuff but... – Aug 01, 10:12 PM
How ironic. I sent a message to the administrators of web site... – Aug 01, 6:32 PM
My priest spent a lot of time answering my emails and meeting... – Jul 17, 2:19 PM
- Jacobse: The Progressive Captivity of Orthodox Churches in America [78]
THe Acton Inst. just posted the following link about a Greek Orthodox... – Jul 30, 5:35 PM
Gratefully so. Thank you, Mr. Stankovich. – Jul 23, 12:47 PM
Mr. Couretas, I most assuredly was not referring to you, and pardon... – Jul 23, 9:20 AM
Mr. Stankovich: You wouldn't be talking about me here, would you? ...... – Jul 23, 8:21 AM
- Terry Mattingly: Did ‘The’ Leader of the Orthodox Attend... [11]
Meddle, not medal! – Jul 21, 6:57 PM
Thanks, Father, and I wish you a good Holy Week & Pascha... – Apr 28, 8:17 PM
Seraphim, The interpretation of Canon 28 is what it is but I... – Apr 28, 3:42 PM
Father, I agree that physical conditions are not what makes the Ecumenical... – Apr 28, 2:33 PM
- The Supreme Court, You and Me, and the Future... [53]
Mr. Banescu, your witness. – Jul 16, 10:01 PM
Today's Homily from the Prologue of St. Nikolai of Zhicha: Homily About... – Jul 16, 6:36 PM
You are out of control, and I am ashamed for you. I... – Jul 16, 5:45 PM
Rostislav, If I was "embarrassing myself," I would expect to feel embarrassed.... – Jul 16, 11:24 AM
- William J. Abraham: The Treasures and Trials of Eastern... [3]
I disagree that Orthodoxy has an undeveloped moral philosophy. We have a... – Jul 16, 10:15 AM
While we should be working to transform ourselves, our communities and our... – Jul 12, 4:54 PM
The area of Church-state relations is critical and impinges on the others(all... – Jul 12, 2:09 PM
- Fr. Alexander Schmemann on Socialism [29]
"What I have written I have written." – Jul 14, 3:16 PM
It was all that was needed to be said. I addressed the... – Jul 14, 1:07 AM
The re-assertion fact of the standing by what you have written is... – Jul 13, 10:01 PM
Yes, a simple enough rebuttal to any atheist or leftist is to... – Jul 13, 8:47 PM
- Met. Hilarion of Volokolamsk: Church and State in Russia [9]
Since I have known Metropolitan Jonah, I can state with confidence that... – Jul 08, 1:38 PM
You must understand Rostislav, that I agree with you as well regarding... – Jul 08, 7:34 AM
That common current and yearning certainly exists. I think it drives a... – Jul 07, 6:50 PM
Thank you, Father, ideas I have daily. Just a matter of resources... – Jul 06, 10:57 PM
- Same-Sex Marriage: A Conversation with Fr. Josiah Trenham and... [27]
Every time you write something, you are discriminating against another religious group... – Jul 02, 4:08 AM
"Nor do you have any qualms about their risky health practices and... – Jul 01, 10:00 PM
The Anti Federalist Papers are excellent reading as well... – Jul 01, 4:03 PM
Actually, I am echoing James Madison and Thomas Jefferson who wrote the... – Jun 30, 5:57 PM
- Bill Hinkle Interviews Frs. Hans Jacobse and Josiah Trenham... [1]
[...] https://www.aoiusa.org/bill-hinkle-interviews-frs-hans-jacobse-and-josiah-trenham-on-the-supreme...Sunday, Jun 30th 5:42 amclick to expand... [...] – Jun 30, 5:56 AM
- Building Bridges Between Orthodox and Catholic Christians: Interview with... [14]
I think that it is much too soon to even consider reunion... – Jun 27, 10:34 AM
Read "Against False Union" many years ago. Thank God Orthodox aren't like... – Jun 21, 1:55 PM
Cynthia, it has nothing to do with DNA. It has everything to... – May 16, 5:11 PM
The Minoans are Europeans and are also related to present-day Cretans -... – May 15, 3:58 PM
- Orthodox Speakers at Acton University - 2013 [Audio] [1]
[...] https://www.aoiusa.org/orthodox-speakers-at-acton-university-2013-audio/Tuesday, Jun 25th 2:53 pmclick to expand... [...] – Jun 25, 2:59 PM
- John Anderson on Reaching Millenials [11]
Dancing Alone” by Frank Schaeffer (who has now flaked out and is... – Jun 16, 2:33 PM
The problem is Orthodoxy doesn't not want to invest in converting a... – Jun 16, 2:21 PM
I know that the music category is "Christian," but it is just... – Jun 15, 7:37 PM
Thanks for the congrats, Andrew. I do appreciate your loving comment. I... – Jun 15, 4:27 PM
- ACTON - SVS Poverty Conference Sure to Spark Some... [19]
Agreed. Macedoniandeacon nailed it. – Jun 11, 11:05 PM
Obviously your sister was disabled in a very real way. Psychically if... – Jun 11, 6:01 PM
Thank you! – Jun 08, 11:42 AM
Sure. 🙂 – Jun 07, 2:53 PM
- SVS Poverty Conference Challenges Progressive Economic Ideas [AUDIO] [3]
Mexico also doesn't have much of a free market. – Jun 09, 11:09 PM
Mexico doesn't have much of a welfare state and Mexicans poor come... – Jun 08, 6:13 PM
[...] https://www.aoiusa.org/svs-poverty-conference-challenges-progressive-economic-ideas/Friday, Jun 7th 11:03 amclick to expand... [...] – Jun 07, 12:22 PM
- Letter to Secretary of State John Kerry on Kidnapped... [5]
Dean, Looks like things are getting very unsettled in Turkey. This is... – Jun 03, 2:05 PM
Yeah...but the Muslims in Burma...now THAT's another story. http://news.yahoo.com/obama-walks-fine-line-myanmar-presidents-landmark-visit-184443308.html – Jun 03, 10:38 AM
I doubt Barack Obama or John Kerry care much about Christians in... – May 02, 9:19 AM
All Orthodox Christians and organizations -- not just the Orthodox religious hierarchy... – Apr 30, 10:50 PM
- For Most Atheists, Atheism is a Lifestyle Choice [VIDEO] [15]
Excavations in Jordan have unearthed 20,000-year-old huts that could reshape our view... – May 27, 10:49 PM
Brother read father Seraphim Rose about nihilism – May 26, 10:06 AM
Regardless, a brilliant interview. – May 25, 11:07 AM
[...] “For Most Atheists, Atheism is a Lifestyle Choice,” American Orthodox Institute... – May 23, 11:37 AM
- Is America Becoming Europe? [3]
[...] https://www.aoiusa.org/is-america-becoming-europe/ [...] – May 26, 12:40 PM
- Why Do Eastern Orthodox Churches Continue Enabling Opposition to... [49]
[...] St. Vladimir’s deserves credit for hosting the conference given that a... – May 24, 10:04 AM
- Edith Schaeffer. May Her Memory Be Eternal [9]
Edith Schaeffer 1914 - 2013 RIP by Frank My mother Edith Schaeffer... – May 09, 6:16 PM
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