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Comments on: Wesley J. Smith Analyzes the Election https://www.aoiusa.org/wesley-j-smith-analyzes-the-election/ A Research and Educational Organization that engages the cultural issues of the day within the Orthodox Christian Tradition Tue, 15 Jan 2013 15:55:28 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.3.3 By: Fr. John W. Morris https://www.aoiusa.org/wesley-j-smith-analyzes-the-election/#comment-26791 Tue, 15 Jan 2013 15:55:28 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=12401#comment-26791 I completely agree that Calvinism is at the root of many of our modern problems. However, I must make one correction. Calvin was the heir to Zwingli. It was Zwingli even more than Luther who threw out what Christians had believed for almost 1500 years and invented a completely new religion with no place for traditional Christian worship or the sacramental. Zwingli gutted the Munster of Zurich and remodeled it on the pattern of a medieval university lecture hall thus making the sermon the focus of worship and denying the sanctification of matter and making the human mind and or emotions the center of Christianity. The result is both the excesses of Protestant Fundamentalism and Protestant Liberalism. You are right eventually this leads to the kind of apostasy one sees in the Episcopal Church and in the anti-Christian policies of the Obama administration.

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By: cyntha curran https://www.aoiusa.org/wesley-j-smith-analyzes-the-election/#comment-26575 Sun, 23 Dec 2012 01:55:57 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=12401#comment-26575 Why a woman who procured an abortion would be punished:

-Because “it might appear scandalous that she should be able to deprive her husband of children without being punished”.

-Digest 47.11

From a Roman Catholic website.
Because the thing is a bad example, lower-class people who give a drink to cause an abortion or to excite passion (although they do not do it deceitfully), are to be condemned to the mines, and more distinguished persons to be relegated to an island and deprived of a part of their wealth. If by this drink a woman or a man has died, they are condemned to capital punishment.

-Digest 48.19.38.5 Not saying that people should be punished for abortion as stated in the Justinian Code but that the Justinian Code formed the legal moral law in both eastern and western europe. I
I also recently read an article by a classicist on the Roman-Justinian law on preventing owenerhsip near the shoreline that was adopted into the common law code as well. In the 1960’s a politician from Texas adopted this law for public beaches. In the west it was adopted more than the east. This law would appeal to the liberal while the abortion law would not. If Justinian code use in the 1960’s on public beaches why not the use of it on moral law with not as severe punishement.
atristic Quotes

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By: cyntha curran https://www.aoiusa.org/wesley-j-smith-analyzes-the-election/#comment-26572 Sat, 15 Dec 2012 23:57:47 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=12401#comment-26572 I don’t mean to address this directly to Patriarch Barthelow it just came out that way.

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By: cyntha curran https://www.aoiusa.org/wesley-j-smith-analyzes-the-election/#comment-26571 Sat, 15 Dec 2012 23:40:49 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=12401#comment-26571 Well, Barthelow its ok to be in enviromential causes but the mind people have that God created can to wonderful things readLondon – The Sixth Century builders of Hagia Sophia, the Byzantine cathedral still standing in Istanbul, discovered cement with earthquake-resistant properties 1 300 years before anyone else, a research team revealed on Wednesday.

Hagia Sophia, built as a church and subsequently turned into a mosque, still stands only because its creators discovered the cement.

Many of the surrounding buildings have long since succumbed to the ravages of time, including earthquakes, according to a report in the New Scientist.

The structure has withstood quakes of up to 7,5 on the Richter scale, according to the team, headed by Antonia Moropoulou from Athens’ National Technical University.

‘They were very advanced scientists’ The team found that the cement contained a calcium silicate matrix similar to that found in Portland cement, although the architects, Anthemius of Tralles and Isidore of Miletus, came up with their mix in 532.

Team member Ahmet Cakmak of Princeton University said volcanic ash or other silica was deliberately added to the mixture, producing a material that could absorb seismic activity.

“The Byzantians knew exactly what they were doing. They were very advanced scientists,” he said.

The group hopes the mortar can be recreated to allow faithful restoration. – Sapa-DPA

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By: D.O.M. (Disappointed Orthodox Man) https://www.aoiusa.org/wesley-j-smith-analyzes-the-election/#comment-26567 Wed, 12 Dec 2012 21:31:59 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=12401#comment-26567 After the election, it was quite clear to me what the American Christian Church stands for – NOTHING! It is a dog without teeth, a sword without the double edges, useless and ineffective. Well, at least a dog makes noise, but I rarely heard a peep from the many pusillanimous pulpits about the major biblical issues concerning abortion, homosexuality, and same-sex marriages. To those who attend church regularly on Sundays and voted for those candidates who support the anathemas clearly mentioned in The Word – SHAME ON YOU!! Why bother going to church?! And to the clergy and hierarchy who have cowered too long – you will be spat out, as it says in The Bible. Actually, it would be interesting to see how the American “Christian” clergy voted. Then again, maybe it’s good that I don’t know because I’d probably be more disappointed. As for me, I will henceforth cease and desist from contributing my hard-earned dollars to your buildings, chanceries, fancy robes, Prada shoes, golden chalices, etc., and will only give it to those who truly need it whom I can trust. Enough of the sex, power and money scandals. I am tired of the b.s. and only have to pay the government because it is the law. I don’t have to give the American Christian Church (all tens of thousands of denominations of you) another red cent. So be it!

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By: disappointed orthodox man https://www.aoiusa.org/wesley-j-smith-analyzes-the-election/#comment-26566 Wed, 12 Dec 2012 20:56:21 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=12401#comment-26566 After the election, it was totally clear where the American Christian Church stands. It is nothing more than the blind leading the blind. You people who so faithfully attend church on Sunday and vote for candidates who stand for abortion and same-sex marriage, SHAME ON YOU!! You are wasting your time being scribes, pharisees, and hypocrites. To the clergy and hierarchy who do likewise, the Lord will spit you out like it says in the Bible. As for me, I will save my money and henceforth not donate to any so-called “Christian” church. A Christian charity whom I can trust will receive it. I would actually love to know how all American Christian clergy voted. Or maybe it’s best that I don’t know. The American Christian Church is a dog without teeth, ineffective, useless and pusillanimous. Actually, a dog barks, but I don’t hear anything on the issues from the pulpit of “the best-kept secret.” You guys are too embroiled in money and sexual scandals. YOU HAVE FAILED!! I have to pay taxes, for it is the law. I don’t have to give you whited sepulchers anything, only to those who truly need it. I feel like the Al Pacino character in “Scent of a Woman.” It is clear to me, in closing, that the American Christian Church is empty ritual.

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By: Andrew https://www.aoiusa.org/wesley-j-smith-analyzes-the-election/#comment-26562 Sun, 09 Dec 2012 20:59:54 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=12401#comment-26562 Does anyone know anyting about the White House Conference on Orthodox Engagement to be held on December 14th in Washington DC? Newly consecrated Bishop Gregory has posted that he will be attending on http://www.acrod.org.

What is this?

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By: Andrew https://www.aoiusa.org/wesley-j-smith-analyzes-the-election/#comment-26555 Thu, 06 Dec 2012 03:28:34 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=12401#comment-26555 NY Times: Orthodox Leader Deepens Progressive Stance on the Environment

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/04/science/bartholomew-i-of-constantinoples-bold-green-stance.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0

Talk about doubling down on some bad ideas.

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By: Greg https://www.aoiusa.org/wesley-j-smith-analyzes-the-election/#comment-26545 Fri, 30 Nov 2012 16:32:38 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=12401#comment-26545 Mr Bauman – I think you hit the nail on the head: it was Nietzsche alone who understood the coming age: the enormity of Christ, the existential ruin of nihilism in a post Christian age:

Damon Linker says:
November 28, 2012 at 4:48 pm
I love the “I just can’t seem to find the energy to be angry or jealous.” Like she wants to prove she’s one of Nietzsche’s last men! And I quote:

And thus spoke Zarathustra to the people:

It is time for man to fix his goal. It is time for man to plant the seed of his highest hope.

His soil is still rich enough for it. But that soil will one day be poor and exhausted, and no lofty tree will any longer be able to grow there.

Alas! there comes the time when man will no longer launch the arrow of his longing beyond man — and the string of his bow will have unlearned to whiz!

I tell you: one must still have chaos in oneself, to give birth to a dancing star. I tell you: you have still chaos in yourselves.

Alas! There comes the time when man will no longer give birth to any star. Alas! There comes the time of the most despicable man, who can no longer despise himself.

Lo! I show you the Last Man.

“What is love? What is creation? What is longing? What is a star?” — so asks the Last Man, and blinks.

The earth has become small, and on it hops the Last Man, who makes everything small. His species is ineradicable as the flea; the Last Man lives longest.

“We have discovered happiness” — say the Last Men, and they blink.

They have left the regions where it is hard to live; for they need warmth. One still loves one’s neighbor and rubs against him; for one needs warmth.

Turning ill and being distrustful, they consider sinful: they walk warily. He is a fool who still stumbles over stones or men!

A little poison now and then: that makes for pleasant dreams. And much poison at the end for a pleasant death.

One still works, for work is a pastime. But one is careful lest the pastime should hurt one.

One no longer becomes poor or rich; both are too burdensome. Who still wants to rule? Who still wants to obey? Both are too burdensome.

No shepherd, and one herd! Everyone wants the same; everyone is the same: he who feels differently goes voluntarily into the madhouse.

“Formerly all the world was insane,” — say the subtlest of them, and they blink.

They are clever and know all that has happened: so there is no end to their derision. People still quarrel, but are soon reconciled — otherwise it upsets their stomachs.

They have their little pleasures for the day, and their little pleasures for the night, but they have a regard for health.

“We have discovered happiness,” — say the Last Men, and they blink.

And here ended the first discourse of Zarathustra, which is also called “The Prologue,” for at this point the shouting and mirth of the multitude interrupted him. “Give us this Last Man, O Zarathustra,” — they called out — “make us into these Last Men!

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By: Michael Bauman https://www.aoiusa.org/wesley-j-smith-analyzes-the-election/#comment-26538 Sat, 24 Nov 2012 18:04:58 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=12401#comment-26538 At a certain level, Neitzche lamented the loss of the God-centered culture. The Christianity of his father, legalized and hypocritized was no option for him. The only alternative was the ascendency of the gifted and the will to power. It is actually quite logical: to replace God one has to be god-like.

The fact that totalitarian states became the ascendent ones rather than individuals would probably have bothered him.

He longed for the freedom that God created us with, he simply did not recognize how to attain it. The struggle that his Supermen must go through can quite easily describe the Christian struggle for holiness in the context of the Church.

A Christianity that diminishes or negates stuggle and spiritual warfare will not be attractive to those who would be saints. Even we Orthodox, at least here in the US, tend to paint to easy a picture of the Christian life. How else to we fall for the political ideologies and the demand to pay, pray and obey?

Only recognizing the nihlist intoxicants for what they are and engaging our hearts and minds to not partake of them will make a difference. It is a personal battle joined together with our fellow communicants. We do not stand or fall as ‘individuals’ whatever that is. As Fr. Hans points out, we are relational beings designed for communion with God. When the primary relationships are denied (God and Church and family) we look for something to fill the void. Something that we need to think about: the state is always the enemy of faith in God unless the people who constitute the state are His friends and lovers.

Fake replacements:
Consermerism
Aggressive Wars
Egalitarianism
Dualism
Relativism (moral and religious)
Et cetera, Et cetera, Et cetera……

Of course retreat into a triumphalistic ethno-centric community is not the answer. That just gives the ideolgies that ravage our souls more space.

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By: Geo Michalopulos https://www.aoiusa.org/wesley-j-smith-analyzes-the-election/#comment-26530 Thu, 22 Nov 2012 16:04:34 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=12401#comment-26530 In reply to M. Stankovich.

As am I.

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By: M. Stankovich https://www.aoiusa.org/wesley-j-smith-analyzes-the-election/#comment-26526 Wed, 21 Nov 2012 23:13:13 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=12401#comment-26526 I must admit that upon beginning the introduction, I nearly moved on without reading this essay. This would have been a major injustice, but proof-positive of Bernard Shaw’s commentary that sometimes, it is best to simply remove one’s hat and let things speak for themselves. This is a very thoughtful, very sober essay, and I am glad I chose to read on.

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By: Orthodox Collective https://www.aoiusa.org/wesley-j-smith-analyzes-the-election/#comment-26514 Tue, 20 Nov 2012 15:17:40 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=12401#comment-26514 […] Nov 20th 8:49 amclick to expand…Wesley J. Smith Analyzes the Election https://www.aoiusa.org/wesley-j-smith-analyzes-the-election/Tuesday, Nov 20th 8:47 amclick to expand…Happy Birthday to His Holiness! […]

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