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Comments on: Thoughts from a great historian https://www.aoiusa.org/thoughts-from-a-great-historian/ A Research and Educational Organization that engages the cultural issues of the day within the Orthodox Christian Tradition Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:08:27 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.3.3 By: L.Coman https://www.aoiusa.org/thoughts-from-a-great-historian/#comment-2274 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:08:27 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=567#comment-2274 Our culture has thoroughly prepared us to search for fulfillment and purpose in a purely worldly way. We were/are being prepared to accept a worldly king.

“Blessed and thrice-blessed is the man who will not desire to do so and, hence, will not see the God-abominated person of antichrist. Whosoever will see him and hear his blasphemous words promising all earthly blessings, the same will be seduced and will go forth to worship him. And they will perish, along with him, as far as eternal life is concerned; they will burn in eternal fire!”

It is not a bad thing to analyze, and analyze and analyze what led us here. We analyze it from a historical point of view, from an economical, social or any other point of view. There is nothing wrong with analyzing. In fact I reached some valuable conclusions reading what is posted here.

We have to do more than this. If there is a city destroyed by a calamity, you do not start to analyze what happened. A brief analysis might be necessary in order to properly proceed to actually save whatever is left, the survivors, and get them out of the debris. We can do that by placing the light on Christ and the Saints. Fr. Arseney’s story is not unique. On the contrary, there are so many. When you know these stories you want to become like Fr. Arseney, you start to understand and love Christ.

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By: L.Coman https://www.aoiusa.org/thoughts-from-a-great-historian/#comment-2272 Sun, 04 Jan 2009 20:55:43 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=567#comment-2272 Note 31.

You should have used quotes for the Big Bang. Very few people can read minds here (if any 🙂 ). May you conversion
be for the salvation of your soul.

I’ll tell you a real story. Just before the communism came fraudulently to full power in an eastern European country a priest, Fr. Arsey, was preaching to a large crowd gathered outside his church. The people were waiting and waiting, but the priest would not start to talk. After a while he said: I am not going to talk until the poisonous serpents who are hiding in the crowd of believers will leave. All of a sudden some motion took place in the crowd and some people left. The priest started to talk. After he talked for a while he stopped and was looking above the crowd. There were two minutes of complete silence and nobody understood why. Later on the priest told some of his closest followers that he had seen seven crowns coming down from the sky and placed on the heads of seven men. Later on those men were arrested and died in the communist prisons. Those were the crowns of martyrdom.

Later on, Fr Arseney was arrested and put in prison. But great is our Lord and God Jesus Christ! He is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. When the priest was praying at midnight the chains and locks will fall apart. The people (guards, officers, etc) will gather at midnight to see this miracle. After work, all they will talk about is Fr. Arseney. The authorities were forced to take him out of jail and give him an imposed residency.

What I mean is that venomous serpents are still around writing on blogs, appearing to be no different than a true faithful. What they have difficulties with is writing down with capital letters “Christ is my God and my Lord!” or something similar.
And yes, we are to give thanks to Him for everything!

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By: H Mitchell https://www.aoiusa.org/thoughts-from-a-great-historian/#comment-2271 Sun, 04 Jan 2009 16:43:22 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=567#comment-2271 L Coman writes,
“We should not accept the microchip and be prepared to live with a piece of bread and few olives a day ( Elder Paisios). We should know that antichrist will work false miracles and generally, will try to copy Christ.”

Brother L Coman,
Certainly we are to always remain steady and endure suffering. I am an ignorant man, I don’t understand the teaching of microchips from the holy fathers. How will this help us to engage the cultural issues of the day from within our tradition?

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By: wesley j. smith https://www.aoiusa.org/thoughts-from-a-great-historian/#comment-2267 Sat, 03 Jan 2009 22:38:32 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=567#comment-2267 Thanks for reacting to my comment. L.Colman: You read WAY too much into my little turn of phrase. The “Big Bang” term wasn’t meant literally, nor was it intended to denote the scientific theory of how the universe began. It was a metaphor, for a new explosion of growth and influence.

H. Mitchell: I think the Church should work as hard as it can to make things better here. Nor was I meaning to imply that the Church should do anything to reduce. Indeed, may it grow! As a relatively new convert, I want others to find what I have been blessed to have received.

What I meant is that in the coming days I don’t think people will claim to be Christians as a career enhancer. It seems to me that we are returning to a general atmosphere reminiscent of the first two centuries, although I don’t expect believers to be thrown into arenas with wild animals. If I am right, it is the times that will do the reducing since it will take hardiness and true belief to identify oneself as a Christian. When that happens, the Church will be reduced to its core essence of the truly faithful, at which point I expect history to repeat itself and the world to once again be transformed, which was my meaning in using “Big Bang.”

Thanks.

He is born!

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By: L.Coman https://www.aoiusa.org/thoughts-from-a-great-historian/#comment-2265 Fri, 02 Jan 2009 02:03:14 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=567#comment-2265

Then, as we saw in the first few centuries, we could experience another Big Bang that once again transforms the world.

Except for the quote above, Wesley’s comment seems very sound.
The questions one should ask are:
1. Doesn’t Wesley know that the Big Bang has nothing to do with Christianity?
2. Did he made this mistake out of ignorance or intentionally?

Out there are hierarchs, not only lay people, who know a great deal about Christianity but they work to distort it.

Note 29.
What we need to do is to know our faith and the teachings of the Holy Fathers.
We should not accept the microchip and be prepared to live with a piece of bread and few olives a day ( Elder Paisios). We should know that antichrist will work false miracles and generally, will try to copy Christ.

This is what we should expect:
Prophecies

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By: H Mitchell https://www.aoiusa.org/thoughts-from-a-great-historian/#comment-2264 Thu, 01 Jan 2009 20:06:56 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=567#comment-2264 Wesley,
Praise be to our holy redeemer.
Thank you for your comments, which I agree with. My question is, what is it that you think the church needs to be reduced from in order to reach its essence? I guess I’m thinking particularly in regards to Orthodox in US. Don’t we need to continue to press with everything we’ve got against Satan’s takeover of our country? If we don’t, who will?

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By: wesley j. smith https://www.aoiusa.org/thoughts-from-a-great-historian/#comment-2246 Sat, 27 Dec 2008 17:43:55 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=567#comment-2246 We are moving from a post Christian era into an anti-Christian era. But are we not to give thanks for all things? It strikes me that this might be a tempering that will, under increasing societal pressure, greatly strengthen the Church by reducing it to its core the essence. Then, as we saw in the first few centuries, we could experience another Big Bang that once again transforms the world.

In the meantime, is not our job to speak the truth to the best of our ability, and to do so in love? And isn’t that the “why” and not the “how?”

As for me, by God’s grace, I am going to repent my many failings, work to bank my anger and frustration, and prayerfully seek to exhibit the charity in my heart that is the minimum that is expected of me.

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By: George Michalopulos https://www.aoiusa.org/thoughts-from-a-great-historian/#comment-1687 Wed, 24 Dec 2008 13:02:45 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=567#comment-1687 are the saints not in a state of repose? As for the anti-Christ, I believe that his heresies will become obvious after the fact to most people. that’s why I believe he may be an orthodox-believing Christian (or passes himself off as one)

The seduction of the world and its problems is too great for many to ignore. Witness the insistence of the ecumenical patriarchate on green issues. The Indiction this year was served in honor of the ecosystem. While I believe that we should be good stewards of the earth, this is but a step a way from Gaia-worship.

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By: L.Coman https://www.aoiusa.org/thoughts-from-a-great-historian/#comment-1686 Wed, 24 Dec 2008 07:56:39 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=567#comment-1686 Christ is Born! Glorify Him!
Merry Christmas!

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By: L.Coman https://www.aoiusa.org/thoughts-from-a-great-historian/#comment-1685 Wed, 24 Dec 2008 07:55:02 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=567#comment-1685

However, a bigger challenge today is the worship of nothing that is nihilism. At least in paganism some thing is worshiped.

This is what I was saying: paganism is not the default state of humanity. What we meant by paganism was “man living and trying to find happiness in a purely worldly sense, without reference to God”. This is our western world today. It is not a natural state, we were led here. The proof of it is the second sentence in the quote: at least in paganism some thing is worshiped. Here by paganism you mean something else: people worshiping false gods. They are more serious in their religious life. Why is that? Because of what they are exposed to through education in schools and mass media.

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By: Michael Bauman https://www.aoiusa.org/thoughts-from-a-great-historian/#comment-567 Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:13:49 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=567#comment-567 George, I think what L. Coman objects to is the word ‘default’. I don’t think you are using the word to mean our natural state, the way in which we are created. Paganism is not our fundamental ontological position. However, as St. Paul points out in the first chapter of Romans and our own experience in this world shows, paganism (worshiping the created thing more than the creator) is our constant temptation and is quite easy to fall into–almost inevitable. The entropy of the fall takes us there. It is only by the grace of God that there is anything other than paganism. It is only the Incarnational invasion and the re-capturing of our nature for God that we can rise above paganism.

However, a bigger challege today is the worhip of nothing that is nihilism. At least in paganism some thing is worshiped.

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By: Michael Bauman https://www.aoiusa.org/thoughts-from-a-great-historian/#comment-565 Thu, 18 Dec 2008 02:26:11 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=567#comment-565 Conspiracy theories place power in the this world, as Christians we have to remember that our battle is not against flesh and blood, but the unseen. As Solzhenitzyn reminded us, the dividing line between good and evil runs through each human heart.

I don’t consider my statement a merely a literary device. Satan is a real being, not simply a personifying metaphor.

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By: L.Coman https://www.aoiusa.org/thoughts-from-a-great-historian/#comment-554 Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:54:09 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=567#comment-554 Note 20)

Corruption (i.e. sickness, despair, death), is what we default to. Even the saints who have overcome the passions physically die.

Then you say there is no (significant) difference between a saint and a sinner. Wow …

You say:

As far as the Antichrist is concerned, IMO, I fear he will be an orthodox-believing Christian, one who will be able to deceive “even the elect.”

How in the world can antichrist be an orthodox-believing Christian? You are abusing the language. An orthodox-believing Christian is by definition (a very basic one) a person who believes in Christ. Antichrist will say that he is the Messiah! When did he change his mind? At some point he started to doubt Christ and believe that he is the Messiah. Or he pretended all the time to be an orthodox-believing Christian but never really was. I do not see any other possibility.

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By: L.Coman https://www.aoiusa.org/thoughts-from-a-great-historian/#comment-552 Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:35:18 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=567#comment-552 What do you mean by:

The only conspiracy is Satan’s.

It is just a literary device? The angels, the devil, hell and heaven are all literary devices? Some “Catholics” teach this.

St John Maximovitch was taken to court by real people, but he accused the devil.

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By: George Michalopulos https://www.aoiusa.org/thoughts-from-a-great-historian/#comment-551 Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:49:58 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=567#comment-551 Sirs, “paganism being the default position of humanity” and “man being created int the image of God” are false choices: man WAS created in the “image AND likeness of God,” he now possesses only the image. Why? Because of the Fall.

Paganism: idolatry, hedonism, and today, political ideology, are all the results of the Fall. Corruption (i.e. sickness, despair, death), is what we default to. Even the saints who have overcome the passions physically die. Our normal state will not be repaired completely until the Last Judgment.

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