Comments on: The Primacy Problem (Catholic and Orthodox)

By: Robert

Robert — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:23:12 +0000

Canon 34 would require major concessions on Rome’s part.

This brings us ante 1056 where Canon 34 provides justification for the schism.

We go around in circles.

What is meant or envisioned by this elusive “unity”? Doctrinal unity? Unity of ecclesiological organization? Hierachial unity? These mean vastly different things! It is not altogether clear to me what the goal is here.

Unity is seductive.

By: Nick Katich

Nick Katich — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:05:12 +0000

I would offer Apostolic Canon 34 as the only primacy that exists and refer to my essay on the Ravenna document signed in October 2007. http://www.orthodoxnews.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=editorialsopinion.one&content_id=16790&CFID=66305291&CFTOKEN=51182886&tp_preview=true

By: Robert

Robert — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:46:59 +0000

“we can only reaffirm our ecclesiological self-understanding, and we are not entitled to invent some new ecclesiology to bring the order of the Orthodox Church closer to the Catholic model.”

Precisely!

It may also be noted unity is not something that can be (super)imposed. Such a unity (if we could call it that) would cause more problems.