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Comments on: The Greek Ecclesiastical Settlement https://www.aoiusa.org/the-greek-ecclesiastical-settlement/ A Research and Educational Organization that engages the cultural issues of the day within the Orthodox Christian Tradition Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:36:15 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.3.3 By: George Michalopulos https://www.aoiusa.org/the-greek-ecclesiastical-settlement/#comment-4862 Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:36:15 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=2712#comment-4862 One of the things that struck me like a punch in the gut, was the address to the “clergy and notables of the Pelopenese and the Aegean islands.” This was a way of the Phanar not even recognizing “Ellada” (Greece), which is the name of that newly independent and recognized nation.

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By: George Michalopulos https://www.aoiusa.org/the-greek-ecclesiastical-settlement/#comment-4848 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 12:51:41 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=2712#comment-4848 Isaac, you are correct. In fact, there are specific canons which state that you should not commemorate a bishop during the litanies if he is preaching heresy and/or schism.

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By: Isaac Crabtree https://www.aoiusa.org/the-greek-ecclesiastical-settlement/#comment-4845 Wed, 01 Jul 2009 23:36:33 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=2712#comment-4845 Fascinating essay into this subject. I’m confused, though. Which canon, exactly, condemn the Church of Greece for refusing to yoke itself to a bishop selected and to some extent controlled by a political leader who was hostile not only to Greek sovereignty but to the Orthodox Christian faith itself? I’m thinking they might have invoked the canon of common sense on that one– that, or they should have said: “Your All-Holiness, we’ll submit to you just as soon as we hang the Sultan from the walls of the city in the manner that he did so many of your predecessors.”

I’m not sure I agree much with the idea that autocephaly can’t simply be declared. Situations like the Church of Greece demanded it, and so did the Muscovite situation after Constantinople’s betrayal of the Faith (for the second time) in the 15th Century. Is it similar to nationalism? Of course, but it’s not the same. And certainly the conscience of the whole Body is brought to bear on the decisions of a local Church. Why do we have to label adaptations of Church administration to new circumstances “protestant” or “nationalist”?

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