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Comments on: The America of 2013 https://www.aoiusa.org/the-america-of-2013/ A Research and Educational Organization that engages the cultural issues of the day within the Orthodox Christian Tradition Thu, 24 Jan 2013 04:59:52 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.3.3 By: Michael Bauman https://www.aoiusa.org/the-america-of-2013/#comment-26845 Thu, 24 Jan 2013 04:59:52 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=12478#comment-26845 DW: Well I reckon’ we are all just doomed. Guns or martyrdom, that is the question since any and all attempts to govern ourselves end in unreconciled evil.

I’m so very surprised that governments do evil and corrupt things, wow what a revelation..

By golly next thing you know y’all be saying that even folks in the Church have done evil and corrupt things too. I’m not sure my little ol’ pea pickin’ heart can rightly stand that. Oh my I think I’m havin’ a case of the vapors. Fiddle-dee-dee.

Sheesh!

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By: Dove Weed https://www.aoiusa.org/the-america-of-2013/#comment-26843 Thu, 24 Jan 2013 04:06:04 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=12478#comment-26843 In reply to Michael Bauman.

Even if dear ‘ole USA were the best of the worst as you proclaim, the lesser of evil is still evil.
The USA, and its leaders in particular, are as fallen as any of humanity, and not nearly as saintly as you would have them be.

That in and of itself is cause to exercise caution about any such addictive jingoist notions as might subliminally lurk beneath the shallow waters of your claim.

If anything, such claim exposes the Calvinistic bent in which American “culture” and its belief system is awash, a religion which no doubt even God wouldn’t be sorry to see evaporate from American shores.

The rock on which the Church is built by Christ is named faith, not Plymouth.

Aside from that, you’ve merely made an opinionated assertion, a belief, that’s not founded on historical fact.
Anyone who’s read The American background section of The Ideological Management Industry and other well documented research by Alex Carey might beg to differ with your religious opinion.
Not to mention viewers of filmography of Adam Curtis, Scott Noble, and John Pilger, or the well researched works of Anthony Sutton.

There are many other sources of historical facts, too many to cite here that do not support your claim to fame, but which do illustrate American infamy, an infamy that is pointless to counterproductively compare by “degree” with the infamy of any other nation.

The American background in The Ideological Management Industry alone documents the propaganda that has spread corruption of democracy from America to UK and Australia and around the globe.
It’s the same propaganda that’s at the heart of America’s belief system.

Not to mention the bloodshed documented in “America’s Century of Regime Change from Hawaii to Iraq“.

Americans, much less the US government, have not even begun to “own up” to any of that.
Without such repentance, the US nation, like the Roman Empire, is collapsing primarily from decadence within, not from terrorist threat from without (and by primarily collapsing from decadence within I do not especially mean abortion or homosexuality, but the will to corrupt democracy at home and abroad with propaganda, and to cause bloodshed around the globe).

Those who want to put the nation on the right “moral” track, can only do so by putting their own personal house in order.

Otherwise, as this document illustrates, such efforts are just a bunch of gnosticism under pretense of Orthodoxy, no differently than the protestant evangelism of Russia is gnosticism under pretense of Christianity.
As the document puts forth, to be looking outside, instead of within, for the perfect state of governance is a sure sign of gnostic search for chiliastic utopia.

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By: Michael Bauman https://www.aoiusa.org/the-america-of-2013/#comment-26836 Tue, 22 Jan 2013 23:59:11 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=12478#comment-26836 Tomas, every nation has a history of bloodshed, prejudice and corruption. However the US has a better record than most of owning up and a better record than most in our generosity. Even our worst rulers are paragons of virtue compared to the worst Europe, Asia, and Africa have proffered.

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By: Dove Weed https://www.aoiusa.org/the-america-of-2013/#comment-26827 Mon, 21 Jan 2013 15:01:25 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=12478#comment-26827 The American “Thinker” is but another victim of Gudge propaganda.
While his criticism of contemporary American culture is on target, his solution which typically entails blaming Hudge, is way off the mark, because his aim is obviously to drive Jones into the arms of Gudge, as if Gudge is Jones’ friend and Hudge his enemy,
when BOTH Gudge and Hudge work against Jones, the common man (woman and child).

I won’t repeat my comment made at The Republic is Finished and the America We Knew is Gone
(Search page for “Dove Weed”, second entry on page)

But suffice to say, the American thinker is monomaniacal and not a complete thinker like the Apostle of Common Sense, G.K. Chesterton.

Focus on the passing of the Republic and bemoaning the fact is a waste of time for Christians.
Early Christians thrived without a “Republic” under their control, proving that such is not essential to Real Christianity.
That Americans “think” otherwise only betrays the Calvinistic bent that infects American culture by way of Plymouth Rock.
Puritanism is not the “rock” on which Christ said he would build the Church.
Now that America is returning to paganism (albeit in a post modern form that isn’t really), Christians will have to Get Real in a catacomb way.
No doubt, that will send the tares thrashing.

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By: Tomas https://www.aoiusa.org/the-america-of-2013/#comment-26779 Sat, 12 Jan 2013 01:32:57 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=12478#comment-26779 In reply to Michael Bauman.

Very true. Our nation’s history is riddled with bloodshed, racism and all sorts of atrocities. I never understood why people look back upon our nation’s early days as if some moral utopia existed. Even the “halcyon” days of the 1950s were an embarrassment (unless you consider forced segregation of the races to be moral).

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By: Bill Congdon https://www.aoiusa.org/the-america-of-2013/#comment-26775 Thu, 10 Jan 2013 00:31:28 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=12478#comment-26775 In reply to Michael Bauman.

Well said, sir. In this age of spiritual ennervation, may God grant us the courage to live up to those responsibilities.

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By: cyntha curran https://www.aoiusa.org/the-america-of-2013/#comment-26759 Mon, 07 Jan 2013 00:19:32 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=12478#comment-26759 Well, it takes Focus North America on a massive scale. Too many Republicans just wanted their taxes cut without helping people out of the economic messed hence the higher taxes.. I hear cries of Moochers from a lot of Republicans but they don’t take time to help people maybe retrain or help them if they have difficulty in an expense part of the US. A lot of folks in expense areas of the US well not get off of unemployment since parttimes jobs can bring in less money. Christians should help these people back in the workforce as fast as possible than spend their time decrying them as moochers if they are moochers then christians should show them a way out.

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By: Michael Bauman https://www.aoiusa.org/the-america-of-2013/#comment-26755 Sun, 06 Jan 2013 20:19:57 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=12478#comment-26755 America is always in some moral crisis or other. We were founded out of a series of moral crises. The first set culminated in the Civil War. The second phase culminated in WW II
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From WW II until now we’ve been gradually discarding our cultural Christianity.

That is pretty much a done deal. Will the next phase we persecution of people’s of faith or will the faithful deepen our faith sufficiently to revitalize our country?

Whatever the answer, the personal responsibility is the same.

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By: D.O.M. (Perignon) https://www.aoiusa.org/the-america-of-2013/#comment-26747 Sat, 05 Jan 2013 14:54:36 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=12478#comment-26747 In reply to macedonianreader.

I wholeheartedly agree with you.

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By: macedonianreader https://www.aoiusa.org/the-america-of-2013/#comment-26726 Fri, 04 Jan 2013 15:01:49 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=12478#comment-26726 At this point, with happened in our legislature the last couple of days. I’m beyond words with both parties. And honestly, we can’t keep blaming Barrack Obama. The GOP has folded and sold out on all fronts – re-electing the Speaker who spearheaded the turncoat party to third in line to the Presidency again. To say I feel betrayed and terrorized, and revolted would not do my feelings justice …. I guess I had a few more words left.

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By: Orthodox Collective https://www.aoiusa.org/the-america-of-2013/#comment-26711 Fri, 04 Jan 2013 02:31:56 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=12478#comment-26711 […] https://www.aoiusa.org/the-america-of-2013/Thursday, Jan 3rd 7:49 pmclick to expand… […]

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