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Comments on: Secretary Clinton announces 5-year funding push, including abortion https://www.aoiusa.org/secretary-clinton-announces-5-year-funding-push-including-abortion/ A Research and Educational Organization that engages the cultural issues of the day within the Orthodox Christian Tradition Sun, 17 Jan 2010 06:46:26 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.3.3 By: George Michalopulos https://www.aoiusa.org/secretary-clinton-announces-5-year-funding-push-including-abortion/#comment-8261 Sun, 17 Jan 2010 06:46:26 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=5474#comment-8261 Fr, “servile flattery,” what a damning indictment. You’re right, those eparchies under the EP are most definitely in trouble.

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By: cynthia curran https://www.aoiusa.org/secretary-clinton-announces-5-year-funding-push-including-abortion/#comment-8259 Sun, 17 Jan 2010 05:23:47 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=5474#comment-8259 Here’s another early christian work that I came across the epistle of Barbnabas. Read in some of the churches. Thou shalt not destroy thy conceptions before they are brought forth;nor kill them after they are born.

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By: Fr. Johannes Jacobse https://www.aoiusa.org/secretary-clinton-announces-5-year-funding-push-including-abortion/#comment-8257 Sat, 16 Jan 2010 20:57:06 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=5474#comment-8257 In reply to Andrew.

You see the same misuse of language here that you saw when Abp. Demetrios visited the White House but even one level higher: the vocabulary of the Orthodox tradition is employed rather than the vocabulary of history. Pat. Bartholomew’s words are nothing more than the attempt to influence through flattery, quite unseemly for a religious leader of his stature and certainly something you would never hear Pat. Kirill, Pope Benedict, or even Abp. Rowan utter to high placed political officials.

Again, this is another failure of Pat. Bartholomew’s advisers. It reads like it was scripted by an old time Washington lobbyist, including the hackneyed rhyme (“In addition to understanding what is power and might, you know as well what is holy and right”) which probably earned the writer a few atta-boys from his peers. They are tone deaf to the nuances of language in American culture, and you can bet Clinton saw right through it and read weakness.

Clinton does not know what is “holy and right.” If she did, she would not make abortion a centerpiece of US foreign policy. Presumably Pat. Bartholomew knows this…but you are left to wonder. If he does, then the words are servile flattery. If he doesn’t, then we are in trouble.

OTOH, maybe its because he has been under the Turks for so long that he does not know how people in a Democratic Republic think.

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By: George Michalopulos https://www.aoiusa.org/secretary-clinton-announces-5-year-funding-push-including-abortion/#comment-8250 Sat, 16 Jan 2010 04:34:31 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=5474#comment-8250 Andrew, it’s statements like that that makes me want to hurl my lunch.

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By: Andrew https://www.aoiusa.org/secretary-clinton-announces-5-year-funding-push-including-abortion/#comment-8247 Sat, 16 Jan 2010 03:56:55 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=5474#comment-8247 Lets remember the EP’s Words to Secretary Clinton, of course he could not exchange a simple polite statement -the Green Patriarch has to go further:

In addition to understanding what is power and might, you know as well what is holy and right. And your respect for the diversity of religious expression in the world makes you a champion of human rights and religious liberty

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