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Comments on: Russian Church Declines to Comment on Constantinople Statement on Abbot’s Arrest https://www.aoiusa.org/russian-church-declines-to-comment-on-constantinople-statement-on-abbots-arrest/ A Research and Educational Organization that engages the cultural issues of the day within the Orthodox Christian Tradition Sat, 14 Jan 2012 18:45:14 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.3.3 By: Dean Calvert https://www.aoiusa.org/russian-church-declines-to-comment-on-constantinople-statement-on-abbots-arrest/#comment-22571 Sat, 14 Jan 2012 18:45:14 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=11359#comment-22571 Note to Phanar:

Dead church…meet a LIVE church.

Strong letter to follow.

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Seriously – I’ve been observing for some time now that the “fault line” in the Orthodox world was going to change from that of “Greek vs Slavic” to one of “Live vs Dead”. I think this episode is a great example of that. And the response was particularly telling: When it’s important…simply ignore the Dead church.”

This story is interesting in that it marks a new threshhold for the Russian Church. During the past two years, the ROC has begun to consistently describe the Ecumenical Patriarch as simply “the Patriarch of Constantinople.” This began during the visit of the EP to Moscow which coincided with the First Assembly of Bishops here in the US, and has continued unabated since then. See for yourself at this http://www.mospat.ru/en/2011/12/26/news55463/ or any number of other stories on the MP website referring to Constantinople. There are no longer (or very few) references to “first among equals” or “His ALL Holiness the Ecumenical Patriarch”…it is now simply Patriarch of Constantinople…presumably the Greek equivalent to the Patriarch of Moscow.

This, however, marks a new step in the process. The Moscow patriarchate is now flexing it’s muscles, using it’s position as a “live” church and a serious organ of the Russian State, to weigh in on political issues anywhere in the Orthodox world.

The ancient patriarchates, who have lived for centuries on nothing but mythology, may want to reconsider their positions on a few things. Because this is simply a “preview of coming attractions.”

While all the talk about a “Great and Holy Council” makes for important sounding headlines – At the end of the day, churches who are “ALIVE” (Romania, Russia, Bulgaria, Serbia, Georgia, Poland, Czech Lands, Greece, Cyprus, the OCA [arguably]- and I would include even the Oriental Churches of Egypt and Ethiopia) are simply going to ignore those that are “Dead” (Constantinople, Jerusalem, Alexandria, Antioch).

If i were “running strategy” for those Ancient Patriarchates, I’d be cutting deals while I still had something to bargain with.

Best Regards,
Dean

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By: Geo Michalopulos https://www.aoiusa.org/russian-church-declines-to-comment-on-constantinople-statement-on-abbots-arrest/#comment-22551 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 22:44:55 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=11359#comment-22551 How long, O Lord, must we suffer under such inertial leadership? How long?

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