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Comments on: Russian bells ring in Egypt https://www.aoiusa.org/russian-bells-ring-in-egypt/ A Research and Educational Organization that engages the cultural issues of the day within the Orthodox Christian Tradition Tue, 20 Apr 2010 16:03:05 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.3.3 By: Scott Pennington https://www.aoiusa.org/russian-bells-ring-in-egypt/#comment-10785 Tue, 20 Apr 2010 16:03:05 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=6377#comment-10785 In reply to Scott Pennington.

Dean,

See comment 10 under John Couretas’ story, “Patriarch Kirill Meets with Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan” 7/7/09 on AOI. Ilya Kharin provided a translation of Met. Hilarion’s press conference in which details were mentioned. The priests would be under the omophorion of Constantinople.

]]> By: Scott Pennington https://www.aoiusa.org/russian-bells-ring-in-egypt/#comment-10784 Tue, 20 Apr 2010 15:57:23 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=6377#comment-10784 In reply to Dean Calvert.

Dean,

Truly He is Risen!

There was an agreement between the Turkish government and the MP regarding the opening of churches for Russians in Turkey by the MP and with the support of Ankara:

http://www.spc.rs/eng/turkish_pm_pledges_support_organizing_churches_russian_orthodox_christians

I can’t find the story, but I’m sure I saw a report that said that these churches would be under the omophorion of Pat. Bartholomew. Now, whether he is happy about that, I can’t say.

This is another thing which I have never understood about the Phanar. Given the MP’s influence with the Russian government, and given that the Russian government has tremendous influence in Turkey, it strikes me as almost suicidal that Pat. Bartholomew would take it upon himself to poke the MP in the eye (Estonia, canon 28, etc.).

]]> By: Dean Calvert https://www.aoiusa.org/russian-bells-ring-in-egypt/#comment-10782 Tue, 20 Apr 2010 15:16:44 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=6377#comment-10782 In reply to Scott Pennington.

Scott,

Christ is Risen!!!

Re: Recall the agreement between Russia and Turkey for the Russians to open churches there to serve the needs of their people.

I recall the Russian patriarch was going to “request” parishes to serve the Russians in Turkey, and I recall the ashen look on the face of the EP from photos of that meeting…but I do not recall any “agreement”.

Did I miss something?

I’ve been wondering what happened following that “request”….particularly in light of the recent announcement from Alexandria.

Also, I’d suspect that a similar announcement will be forthcoming, following the visit to Antioch.

Best Regards,
Dean

]]> By: Scott Pennington https://www.aoiusa.org/russian-bells-ring-in-egypt/#comment-10780 Tue, 20 Apr 2010 15:08:01 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=6377#comment-10780 It’s hard to tell for sure from the report exactly whose jurisdiction these parishes would be under, ultimately. It would be nice if Interfax would get a good translator to do these reports in English. Whoever does these now must be a native Russian speaker who does not have a solid grasp on English grammar or idiom.

Recall the agreement between Russia and Turkey for the Russians to open churches there to serve the needs of their people. The clergy (and presumably practices) would be Russian, but they would be under the omophorion of the Patriarch of Constantinople. This may be a similar situation.

As a practical matter, the Church of Alexandria is not too large and certainly not wealthy. It has, perhaps, 300,000 souls. The Copts are much larger (18,000,000). Though the Alexandrian Orthodox leaders have been active in trying to spread the faith, I’m sure any help they receive, so long as it is by mutual agreement, would be welcome. I don’t see a problem with the MP expanding parishes so long as they are under the omophorion of the primate whose territory it is. It seems that everyone benefits from such an arrangement.

]]> By: Peter O'F. https://www.aoiusa.org/russian-bells-ring-in-egypt/#comment-10775 Tue, 20 Apr 2010 05:56:29 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=6377#comment-10775 “one space of Holy Russia”? Hopefully he’s not planning on, in the future, disregarding Alexandria on the African continent, maybe claiming that Russia wasn’t in on the 1926 “decision” extending Alexandria’s care from “And All Egypt” to the previously-disputed Greek and Arab diasporas thruout Africa…. ROCOR still has parishes/missions there listed through ROCOR’s own website. Also, MP and AP have been collaborating with regard to some Russophone parishes, which AFAIK commemorate the AP; in fact KYRILL visited them — alongside the local AP hierarchs — right before ALEXEI’s repose.

]]> By: Geo Michalopulos https://www.aoiusa.org/russian-bells-ring-in-egypt/#comment-10670 Fri, 16 Apr 2010 16:17:07 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=6377#comment-10670 Well, this is intereting. All things being equal, I can’t say that I’m disappointed.

]]> By: Russian Bells Ring In Egypt : St. George Church of Prescott https://www.aoiusa.org/russian-bells-ring-in-egypt/#comment-10668 Fri, 16 Apr 2010 16:03:41 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=6377#comment-10668 […] Source […]

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