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Comments on: Rod Dreher: The New Battle Lines https://www.aoiusa.org/rod-dreher-the-new-battle-lines/ A Research and Educational Organization that engages the cultural issues of the day within the Orthodox Christian Tradition Tue, 07 Apr 2015 13:53:08 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.3.3 By: Michael Bauman https://www.aoiusa.org/rod-dreher-the-new-battle-lines/#comment-197739 Tue, 07 Apr 2015 13:53:08 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=13593#comment-197739 In reply to Christopher.

Christopher, “They really don’t understand that to the New Man, such language means you have accepted their anthropology…” and they (the New Men) would be right!

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By: Christopher https://www.aoiusa.org/rod-dreher-the-new-battle-lines/#comment-193771 Mon, 23 Mar 2015 17:37:08 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=13593#comment-193771 In reply to Ken.

I like the way you put that Ken. To “break down the walls against all sin” means that sin is no longer recognized, which means that the definition of man has fundamentally changed, which means that Modern Man does not understand his ontological situation. It’s in an interesting story, probably going back all the way to when “the west” lost the “patristic consensus” sometime in the early middle ages.

One thing I agree with you is that Classical Christians will have to stop pretending that their neighbors think like they do, and thus when they speak of the good and moralize they mean something similar to what Christians mean. Actually, I think this will be forced upon Classical Christians because we will be persecuted in real ways around the issue of “gay marriage”, “hate speech”, etc.

Still, there are those who are going to be very slow on the uptake on all this. One example are the aged “metropolitian’s” who represent the EP and are arguing that modernist language centered around “non discrimination” and homosexualism be included in the upcoming “Great Council”. Their naivety is on full display because they really do believe that they can use language such as “non discrimination” and have it mean something in this context. They really don’t understand that to the New Man, such language means you have accepted their anthropology…

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By: Ken https://www.aoiusa.org/rod-dreher-the-new-battle-lines/#comment-193345 Sat, 21 Mar 2015 21:16:05 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=13593#comment-193345 Gregory, homosexuality is the banner sin for all other sins because unlike, say, usury, everyone past puberty intimately understands sexuality. In the battle over sin, then, homosexuality becomes a bright and unmistakeable banner, unlike microfinancing for poor women in Guatemala. Thus, those who wish to break down the castle walls against all sin wave that banner high, as do its defenders on the ramparts. So when Rod warns us about having already lost on gay marriage, I’m afraid he’s warning us as Christians against having already lost the cultural battle against all sins. This is what makes his Benedict Option so interesting and maybe so necessary.

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By: Karen https://www.aoiusa.org/rod-dreher-the-new-battle-lines/#comment-192205 Wed, 18 Mar 2015 01:38:07 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=13593#comment-192205 Gregory, clearly the battle is with “spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places”. Romans 1 describes the place at which we have arrived in our culture. It is the end of the line in a long process of embracing sin–of embracing darkness and calling it light. I agree it is frightening, but we have the encouragement of our Lord in Luke 21:28, “Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near.” And in John 16:33, “In the world you will have tribulation; but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world.” God bless you.

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By: Gregory Manning https://www.aoiusa.org/rod-dreher-the-new-battle-lines/#comment-192069 Tue, 17 Mar 2015 17:39:14 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=13593#comment-192069 As a repentant homosexual and Orthodox Christian I have been baffled by the importance given to homosexuality within the culture at large and politics in particular. For the life of me I am completely unable to discern what quality, singular to homosexuals, is so crucial to the survival of any civilization that so much energy should be spent in its defense! Evolution certainly has no use for it. What is the purposeof it? It serves no utility that I can see. Why has it been given so much weight that citizens, and Christians like myself, must be oppressed if we refuse to “celebrate” it? I rarely watch TV any more but, a few years ago I heard some news commentator, enthused by the growing acceptance of homosexuality, exclaim that we, citizens of an (presumably) advanced civilization, had finally “arrived” in the 21st century because of this acceptance. Flabbergasted, I remember thinking how truly absurd we had become that we would consider the acceptance of sodomy and disordered affection as the high mark of an advanced civilization!

I have no research to back this up but I am confident that the engine that drives this ludicrous phenomenon is not to be found within the gay community but rather outside of it. The force that drives it is extremely cynical and loathes humanity at large. Those like myself who have not only fled from this depressing and deadly life but have also chosen to seek out a new life in Christ will certainly be persecuted. I don’t look forward to it as such but I’m more afraid for those who are unable to see that they are being used. This includes not only homosexuals but heterosexuals who believe they are just being helpful. More especially, I fear for bishops and priests who have become, in their weak faith and gentle and well-meaning guilelessness, the proverbial “useful idiots”. Chesterton was right: the devil is more dangerous to his friends than to his enemies.

In the film “A Man for all Seasons”, Thomas More thought he would be safe if he just kept to himself and remained silent but, as Cromwell angrily noted, More’s silence “roared” up and down Europe. We as Christians will not be left alone. Even if we keep to ourselves, our very existence will always be an intolerable witness to this evil delusion.

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By: Christopher https://www.aoiusa.org/rod-dreher-the-new-battle-lines/#comment-192065 Tue, 17 Mar 2015 17:28:46 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=13593#comment-192065 Just wanted to point to this:

jonah-case

Yet another microcosm of why the mere “legal” is certainly no haven – the New Moralists will define all these things (i.e. “religious freedom”, “speech”, “discrimination”, “fraud”, “mental disorder”, etc.) in their own terms and in a way to accomplish their own political, moral, and religious goals – which is of course the defeat of traditional Christian anthropology…

p.s. One of the great deceits of “secular” or “modern” worldview is that it conned everyone into thinking that it was in fact not a religion/worldview and thus is the “neutral” ground where all other worldviews can meet, “dialogue”, and disputes can be mediated. Of course, this lie is coming more into plain view now that we see just how intolerant and moralistic this religion truly is…

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By: Christopher https://www.aoiusa.org/rod-dreher-the-new-battle-lines/#comment-192047 Tue, 17 Mar 2015 16:38:21 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=13593#comment-192047 Things are moving very fast now.

Something that did not get hardly any press happened in San Antonio Texas last year (forgive me if I have mentioned this here before). My sister in law first told me about this because she was at the time an “urban minister” (which is something of a cross between social worker and pastor) employed by one of the traditional African-American churches there (most of “Northern” and “American” baptist I believe). The city council, all from the political and cultural left of course, were to vote on an addition to the cities “non-discrimination” clause of “sexual-identity” that did NOT exclude churches, let alone church run institutions such as soup kitchens,etc. The traditional African-American council members, churches, pastors all protested. The rest of the city council instead of listening tried to shame the African-American’s by claiming it as a civil rights issue directly related to their struggle!

The city council ended up putting a religious exemption in the updated law not because of the efforts of the real “civil rights leaders”, or because of their supposed commitment to “religious freedom” or “pluralism”. They did so because they were informed by the Texas AG that he would oppose this law in the Texas supreme court and they would of course lose given the current makeup of that court. In other words it was raw political power that stopped them. When they have the political power (and some day they will) it is clear what they will do with it.

Note also that this is not San Francisco, New York, or Seattle. This is San Antonio Texas, deep in the heart of “christian” and “red state” America.

Things are moving very fast now. We will be in the middle of a “hard” persecution very soon now…

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