Comments on: Podcast: The Animal Rights Movement from an Orthodox perspective

By: Eliot Ryan

Eliot Ryan — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:57:29 +0000

What I meant is that the Saints are wonderful models for us because they are in perfect union with His will.

O Lord, you are wonderful in your saints.
All Your works shall give thanks to Thee, oh Lord, and all Your Saints shall bless Thee.

I believe that not only the Animal rights movement but most of the movements have inherent in them the desire for the destruction or enslavement of humanity.

By: Michael Bauman

Michael Bauman — Mon, 22 Mar 2010 18:31:50 +0000

Eliot, I’m afraid you are conflating the utopian vision of the perfection of man by his own efforts which includes the creation of a perfectly just state (a replacement for God) with the personal quest for holiness and the transformation of the Holy Spirit through repentence.

Animal rights is a complete and through rejection of fundamental Christian anthropology and has inherent in it the desire for the destruction of humanity.

By: Eliot Ryan

Eliot Ryan — Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:42:50 +0000

Christians usually don’t believe in perfection until the Lord returns.

St Justin Popovich: On the Lives of the Saint

The Saints are the most perfect Christians, for they have been sanctified to the highest degree with the podvigs of holy faith in the risen and eternally-living Lord Christ and no death has power over them. Their life is entirely from the Lord Christ, and for this reason it is entirely Christ’s life; and their thought is entirely Christ’s thought; and their perception is Christ’s perception. All that they have is first Christ’s and then theirs. If the soul, it is first Christ’s and then theirs: if life, it is first Christ’s and then theirs. In them is nothing of themselves but rather wholly and in everything the Lord Christ. Therefore, the Lives of the Saints are nothing else but the life of the Lord Christ, repeated in every saint to a greater or lesser degree in this or that form. More precisely it is the life of the Lord Christ continued through the Saints, the life of the incarnate God the Logos, the God-man Jesus Christ who became man. This was so that as man He could give and transmit to us His divine life; so that as God by His life he could sanctify and make immortal and eternal our human life on earth.

By: cynthia curran

cynthia curran — Mon, 22 Mar 2010 03:48:05 +0000

Well, I was listening on a broadcast on the classical historian and military historian Victor David Hansan, and he stated that while the west is prefer to the alternative soceties in asia or africa thruout most of the history of the so-called west starting with the Greeks. There is a tendency of niliism when one can’t create a perfect society. And I think some of this is true with the animal rights movement, a world in which there is no animals that are harm. Christians usually don’t believe in perfection until the Lord returns.

By: cynthia curran

cynthia curran — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 01:39:28 +0000

Mr. Smith deals with an issue of notice with radicals. And some animal rights groups are radicals, they usually see the rest of us out of step with a more progessive thinking about hummanwood or animalwood. In the real world, some hard decisions have to be made, and sometimes what benefits humans versus animals is always the same thing. Not that I think we should roll over every species but there are some priorities. And i’m a person that does not like using animals to test things to make us look more pretty.