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Comments on: Patriarch Kirill: Russia needs nuclear weapons https://www.aoiusa.org/patriarch-kirill-russia-needs-nuclear-weapons/ A Research and Educational Organization that engages the cultural issues of the day within the Orthodox Christian Tradition Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:00:10 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.3.3 By: OCA layman https://www.aoiusa.org/patriarch-kirill-russia-needs-nuclear-weapons/#comment-6170 Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:00:10 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=3445#comment-6170 Or we could just chalk it up to His Holiness’ opinion and remind ourselves that part of man’s freedom lies in the ambiguity of many of life’s situations and contexts. Let’s pray for him and also note that he correctly speaks of war as evil, the product of sin.

In spite of revealing to mankind the immense power of the atom, and in spite of their international proliferation, the Lord has thus far extremely limited the use of nuclear weapons and by them– ironically– to compel nations to come together and search for ways of peace.

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By: Chrys https://www.aoiusa.org/patriarch-kirill-russia-needs-nuclear-weapons/#comment-6128 Mon, 14 Sep 2009 01:14:29 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=3445#comment-6128 I was thinking much the same thing as Daniel, wondering how I would feel if some future Patriarch of the US came out in support of maintaining or expanding our nuclear arsenal.

On the one hand, his observations seem pretty sound and well-reasoned to me. On the other hand, his office represents an Eschatological kingdom. My unease arise, I guess, from the sense that comments on a countries defense posture, however legitimate, can be seen to align him more with the City of Man than the City of God – and a very particular City at that. (This sort of plays into the Catholic critique that the Orthodox tend to be toadies of Secular powers.) Hard to imagine the Ambassador of God’s kingdom getting entangled- as St. Paul says (2 Tim 2:4) – in another countries business unless and until it touches on the kingdom. He can certainly articulate the principles and precepts of the Kingdom that could guide the judgment of Russia’s leaders, but – beyond that – it’s his opinion. I guess I would prefer Bishops and Patriarchs to stay firmly within the tradition, articulate foundational precepts and perspectives, and leave the application to the experts in their specific fields – whether it is national defense, finance or ecology.

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By: Daniel Crandall https://www.aoiusa.org/patriarch-kirill-russia-needs-nuclear-weapons/#comment-6127 Sun, 13 Sep 2009 22:16:21 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=3445#comment-6127 There is something unsettling about the Patriarch’s statement. It strikes an odd chord to see a leader in the Orthodox Church extolling nuclear weapons. I’m trying to imagine how I would feel if Metropolitan Philip came out with a statement the role of nuclear weapons in maintaining the United States as a sovereign nation. My personal political proclivities might welcome such a statement; however, the part of me that longs for God, the part of me that is fed and nurtured by the church, is not comfortable with it, at all.

Weapons, in and of themselves are morally neutral. They can be used for good or evil. When the church comes out in favor of a particular weapon it seems to give it a moral patina it does not deserve. If the priest at my church told me that I should have a gun, I would not be long for that church.

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By: George Patsourakos https://www.aoiusa.org/patriarch-kirill-russia-needs-nuclear-weapons/#comment-6102 Sat, 12 Sep 2009 00:02:39 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=3445#comment-6102 It’s too bad that Patriarch Kirill supports nuclear weapons for Russia. A church hierarch should never be in support of nuclear weapons.

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