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Comments on: Patriarch Kirill and Russian Orthodoxy Deserve Respect Not Insults: An Open Letter to George Weigel* https://www.aoiusa.org/patriarch-kirill-and-russian-orthodoxy-deserve-respect-not-insults-an-open-letter-to-george-weigel/ A Research and Educational Organization that engages the cultural issues of the day within the Orthodox Christian Tradition Tue, 22 Mar 2016 21:07:51 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.3.3 By: Desmond Mark Scotchmer https://www.aoiusa.org/patriarch-kirill-and-russian-orthodoxy-deserve-respect-not-insults-an-open-letter-to-george-weigel/#comment-242434 Tue, 22 Mar 2016 21:07:51 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=14117#comment-242434 In reply to Jeff Wyborski.

Re: Jeff Petro’s comment “Members of the Russian Orthodox Church in Exile would side mostly with Weigel”. Do he mean the Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia? I am English by descent, and British by culture, but I go to the largest ROCOR parish in North America here in Toronto, Canada: it is thriving, bursting at the seams with young families, with hundreds taking communion every Sunday. At a guess, I would say maybe one-third of the people who attend are Ukrainian. There is a large smattering of Macedonians, Serbians, Greeks, also some Romanians, Georgians, Egyptians, Syrians, and Anglo-Canadians like myself. I can vouchsafe that the vast majority of people here would have no truck whatsoever for George Weigel or his opinions. Their sympathies are entirely with the authors of this article.

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By: Bouboule https://www.aoiusa.org/patriarch-kirill-and-russian-orthodoxy-deserve-respect-not-insults-an-open-letter-to-george-weigel/#comment-232888 Wed, 14 Oct 2015 12:17:34 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=14117#comment-232888 In reply to Nicholas Denysenko.

Antoine Arjakovksy is not an authoritative orthodox theologian. He represents nobody except himself and should show some logic joining the Uniate church, since he recognises the council of Ferrare Florence. He is simply a uniate posing as an orthodox.

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By: Russia Says: Leave Kids Alone! | Family and Life Update https://www.aoiusa.org/patriarch-kirill-and-russian-orthodoxy-deserve-respect-not-insults-an-open-letter-to-george-weigel/#comment-232820 Wed, 14 Oct 2015 02:44:59 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=14117#comment-232820 […] of the American Institute in Ukraine, explain, over the past fifteen years, “the Russian neo-symphonia has begun to tip in favor of the Church, not the […]

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By: cynthia curran https://www.aoiusa.org/patriarch-kirill-and-russian-orthodoxy-deserve-respect-not-insults-an-open-letter-to-george-weigel/#comment-231201 Mon, 05 Oct 2015 04:48:44 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=14117#comment-231201 In reply to Jeff Petro.

Its believable I have read such things myself.

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By: cynthia curran https://www.aoiusa.org/patriarch-kirill-and-russian-orthodoxy-deserve-respect-not-insults-an-open-letter-to-george-weigel/#comment-231200 Mon, 05 Oct 2015 04:47:34 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=14117#comment-231200 In reply to Jeff Wyborski.

There is probably some truth to that on the secular state of Russia on Abortion. Russia is not the richest country and poor people probably resort to that..

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By: cynthia curran https://www.aoiusa.org/patriarch-kirill-and-russian-orthodoxy-deserve-respect-not-insults-an-open-letter-to-george-weigel/#comment-231199 Mon, 05 Oct 2015 04:43:10 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=14117#comment-231199 In reply to Orthodox Christian.

Well, its no worst than having Justinian as a saint. Sure, he built the Hagia Sophia number 3 after a horrible riot that killed maybe 30,000. Putin is a sofie compared to that.

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By: Russia says NO TO PORN! | Family and Life Update https://www.aoiusa.org/patriarch-kirill-and-russian-orthodoxy-deserve-respect-not-insults-an-open-letter-to-george-weigel/#comment-230864 Fri, 02 Oct 2015 02:38:46 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=14117#comment-230864 […] of the American Institute in Ukraine, explain, over the past fifteen years, “the Russian neo-symphonia has begun to tip in favor of the Church, not the […]

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By: Gregorios https://www.aoiusa.org/patriarch-kirill-and-russian-orthodoxy-deserve-respect-not-insults-an-open-letter-to-george-weigel/#comment-228771 Tue, 15 Sep 2015 15:48:21 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=14117#comment-228771 Whoever Misha is, he should get a regular article in this publication.

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By: Toby Grubbs https://www.aoiusa.org/patriarch-kirill-and-russian-orthodoxy-deserve-respect-not-insults-an-open-letter-to-george-weigel/#comment-227812 Tue, 08 Sep 2015 21:10:38 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=14117#comment-227812 I have served this country my entire adult life, and have watched the Godless masses of zombified Americans betray the basic values that once made the USA the greatest “nation” that has ever existed. I have had to come to accept that those basic values are the vehicle that the zombies have used to destroy the USA. The noble values have paralyzed the last remnant of the moral forces, who are now forced to watch as the disease spreads into every corner of the nation…and then into their own families. The founders did understand that the new American values were dangerous in the wrong hands.

“We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion . . . Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” – John Adams

Lord Jesus Christ, have mercy on the United States of America and its people.

The lack of shock at the sight of Nazi ranks in the pro-Western Ukrainian militias is mind numbing to me. We have come a long way down from the generation that fought for their lives against Nazis, fascists and Godless communists across the globe. The West that has come to the rescue of the Ukrainian government is not the knight in shining armor that it was during the cold war. Modern Europe is a diseased harlot, and the United States is an animated gangrenous rotting corps. The EU and the USA are the modern Sodom and Gomorrah. When the either step up to the microphone and make demands upon Russia, all I can hear are the men of Sodom making demands upon Lot.

Forgive me for rambling…

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By: Misha https://www.aoiusa.org/patriarch-kirill-and-russian-orthodoxy-deserve-respect-not-insults-an-open-letter-to-george-weigel/#comment-227809 Tue, 08 Sep 2015 20:59:02 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=14117#comment-227809 In reply to Pdn Brian Patrick Mitchell.

My bet is Polish-Catholic, name and politics fit, but he’s welcome to his opinion.

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By: Pdn Brian Patrick Mitchell https://www.aoiusa.org/patriarch-kirill-and-russian-orthodoxy-deserve-respect-not-insults-an-open-letter-to-george-weigel/#comment-227792 Tue, 08 Sep 2015 18:29:29 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=14117#comment-227792 In reply to Jeff Wyborski.

Funny how “Jeff Wyborski” claims to be an Orthodox Christian, but all of his postings online are either attacks on Orthodoxy or defenses of Catholicism.

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By: Misha https://www.aoiusa.org/patriarch-kirill-and-russian-orthodoxy-deserve-respect-not-insults-an-open-letter-to-george-weigel/#comment-227787 Tue, 08 Sep 2015 18:07:02 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=14117#comment-227787 In reply to Arbuthnaugh.

There are a couple of things that you don’t seem to understand. First, Putin is wildly popular in Russia with polling numbers any American president would kill for. This is from both Russian and foreign polls. Over 80%. The significance of this is that what Putin is doing is just exactly what the Russian people believe he should be doing. Get rid of him and his successor would be in the same position, with a populace that would like him to act as Putin did. Levada, an NGO which recently had to register as a foreign agent, puts his popularity at 89%:

http://europe.newsweek.com/vladimir-putins-popularity-reaches-historic-high-among-russians-329277

Second, the relationship between church and state in Russia is nowhere as close as it was during the Byzantine and Imperial Russian periods. Yet that did not gut the moral authority of the Church. Neither will the MP’s relationship with the Russian government.

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By: Misha https://www.aoiusa.org/patriarch-kirill-and-russian-orthodoxy-deserve-respect-not-insults-an-open-letter-to-george-weigel/#comment-227786 Tue, 08 Sep 2015 17:56:02 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=14117#comment-227786 In reply to Jeff Petro.

“Members of the Russian Orthodox Church in Exile would side mostly with Weigel.”

I think this little sect has broken up into yet smaller sects since 2006. I wonder what you could get them all to agree on. I’m not sure how the MP could be run by the KGB, which no longer exists. And I’m not sure why the FSB would want to run the ROC since the Russian state is no longer atheistic. The filtering out of collaborationist clergy over the last couple of decades was enough to satisfy the Church Abroad who were/are fervent anti-communists.

It is interesting that you can hear “the Lord” crying out at the MP’s actions. Suffice it to say most Russians do not. The rest is drivel.

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By: Jeff Petro https://www.aoiusa.org/patriarch-kirill-and-russian-orthodoxy-deserve-respect-not-insults-an-open-letter-to-george-weigel/#comment-227703 Tue, 08 Sep 2015 01:41:41 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=14117#comment-227703 Members of the Russian Orthodox Church in Exile would side mostly with Weigel. The Moscow Patriarchate is still essentially run by the KGB (although it’s now called the FSB). The MP celebrates the Divine Services quite beautifully but the Lord is crying at the actions of the clergy. Attend a parish in Moscow and listen to a sermon. Every priest preaches about the glories of Russia. Even the new catechism seems to think that being Russian is a prerequisite for being Christian. And they way the MP treats other Christians? Priests routinely spit on Protestants. They are not considered Christians. And even lower than the Protestants are the Uniates.

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By: Misha https://www.aoiusa.org/patriarch-kirill-and-russian-orthodoxy-deserve-respect-not-insults-an-open-letter-to-george-weigel/#comment-227674 Mon, 07 Sep 2015 21:03:46 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=14117#comment-227674 In reply to Bill Russsell.

Recall that Patriarch Gregory of Constantinople endorsed the Living Church in Russia (directed by the Cheka) since it had the support of the Soviet state and forbade Russian clerics in his territory from commemorating Patriarch Tikhon. He also called on the Serbian Church to abolish the Russian Church Abroad, then centered there. It was a dark time for Constantinople then, as now.

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