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Comments on: Obamacare Ruling Reflects Technocratic Imperative https://www.aoiusa.org/obamacare-ruling-reflects-technocratic-imperative/ A Research and Educational Organization that engages the cultural issues of the day within the Orthodox Christian Tradition Mon, 27 Aug 2012 00:55:22 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.3.3 By: Cynthia Curran https://www.aoiusa.org/obamacare-ruling-reflects-technocratic-imperative/#comment-25684 Mon, 27 Aug 2012 00:55:22 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=11961#comment-25684 Parallel topoi in saint’s lives and histories demonstrate the consolidation of rhetorical strategies and shared ambitions: to portray the adult as divinely inspired from conception.[63] As early as the sixth century, the Byzantines wrote that an individual’s characteristics were developed even before their birth. Sixth-century Sabas was recorded to have been ‘predestined from the womb’, and his contemporary, Nicholas of Sion, was said to be ‘chosen by God, from his Mother’s womb (κοιλίας)’.[64] Ninth-century Tarasios preserved his immutability of mind ‘from the time he was in his mother’s womb and in swaddling clothes.'[65] In the twelfth century, Theodosios Goudeles writes: ‘But He who knows our affairs even before our birth…'[66]This contrasts with Roman and Late Antique sources, wherein we find no mention of foetuses’ characteristics before birth.[67] Looking at the Late Antique Life Course, Alberici points out that Ambrose’s talents were considered to be apparent from birth.[68] In the fourth century, Menander had advised subsequent rhetoricians to make note of miraculous signs after birth.[69] But this precedent seems to have been reinterpreted; in Byzantine hagiographical texts it is common for the writers to record the occurrence of symbolic events after the conception of a predestined pious individual.[70] In the Life of George of Amastris, who lived in the eighth century, it was written: ‘Nor is it fitting to neglect the divine wonders that were worked before the birth of the saint; how he was chosen from above, and how he had his name not from men, nor on account of men, but rather was anointed and dedicated a priest before being born from the womb (πρὶν ἐκ μητρῴων ἐκσπασθῆναι λαγόνων).'[71] In the same vita, the city leaders dreamt that his mother, Megethos, was carrying a ‘holy babe’ in her womb.[72] In the ninth-century vita of Theodora of Thessalonike, it is written:

And thus the Devil shamelessly lay in wait for upto the time of her death, although she reconciled herself to the from the time she was in her mother’s womb through her monastic office and had directed her entire life in a manner pleasing to God.[73] More proof on the life issue from the Byzantine period.

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By: Joseph https://www.aoiusa.org/obamacare-ruling-reflects-technocratic-imperative/#comment-25153 Mon, 16 Jul 2012 04:36:03 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=11961#comment-25153 The real death of the Constitution was the abomination known as *Citizens United*, also reaffirmed by the same Court this week. Too bad that Orthodox Christian wirters, apparently in thrall to the political Right, didn’t speak out against that atrocity.

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By: Geo Michalopulos https://www.aoiusa.org/obamacare-ruling-reflects-technocratic-imperative/#comment-24702 Tue, 03 Jul 2012 02:12:09 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=11961#comment-24702 In reply to Wesley J. Smith.

Ok, Wesley it is!

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By: Wesley J. Smith https://www.aoiusa.org/obamacare-ruling-reflects-technocratic-imperative/#comment-24650 Sun, 01 Jul 2012 03:23:13 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=11961#comment-24650 In reply to Fr. Johannes Jacobse.

Fr. Bless.

It depends on whether Americans want to be like Europe, it seems to me. The jury is out. But the entrails don’t bode well.

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By: Fr. Johannes Jacobse https://www.aoiusa.org/obamacare-ruling-reflects-technocratic-imperative/#comment-24642 Sat, 30 Jun 2012 22:40:09 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=11961#comment-24642 Wesley, I’ve read your essay numerous times and keep thinking about it. Do you think our culture has fallen over the cliff? More specifically, does the technocratic culture rule the future? My essay points to yes obviously, and reading the responses on Catholic Online, my naysayers provide nothing of substance to show where I am wrong. We are on this course I think even if Obamacare is rescinded which, if I read you correctly, is far from a sure thing even if the Republicans take Congress and the Presidency.

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By: Wesley J. Smith https://www.aoiusa.org/obamacare-ruling-reflects-technocratic-imperative/#comment-24641 Sat, 30 Jun 2012 21:27:14 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=11961#comment-24641 In reply to Geo Michalopulos.

Please, George, call me Wesley. It helps me forget how old I am getting. : )

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By: Greg https://www.aoiusa.org/obamacare-ruling-reflects-technocratic-imperative/#comment-24628 Sat, 30 Jun 2012 09:45:39 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=11961#comment-24628 With all due respect, the technocratic revolution is almost a century old – see James Burnham for a trenchant analysis in the Managerial Revolution.

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By: Geo Michalopulos https://www.aoiusa.org/obamacare-ruling-reflects-technocratic-imperative/#comment-24615 Sat, 30 Jun 2012 00:06:16 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=11961#comment-24615 Mr Smith, an excellent analysis. I touched upon some of these on my blog yesterday but you’ve distilled the problem even better than I did. I forget that Conservative judges are as much a part of the Ruling Class as Liberals who’ve done nothing with their lives but suck at the public teat. If anything, it’s a microcosm of what we see in the Orthodox jurisdictions, who seem to view parishes as colonies or franchise outlets. We need more regionalism, more parochialism.

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By: Orthodox Collective https://www.aoiusa.org/obamacare-ruling-reflects-technocratic-imperative/#comment-24547 Thu, 28 Jun 2012 19:35:51 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=11961#comment-24547 […] Supreme Court From here.Syndicated by Atom From here.Syndicated by Atom ☆ ☆ ☆ 3) Obamacare Ruling Reflects Technocratic Imperativehttps://www.aoiusa.org/obamacare-ruling-reflects-technocratic-imperative/By Fr. Johannes Jacobse […]

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