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Comments on: Moscow Patriarchate freezes ecumenical journey: Pope never commanded in the East https://www.aoiusa.org/moscow-patriarchate-freezes-ecumenical-journey-pope-never-commanded-in-the-east/ A Research and Educational Organization that engages the cultural issues of the day within the Orthodox Christian Tradition Wed, 29 Sep 2010 16:14:56 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.3.3 By: George Michalopulos https://www.aoiusa.org/moscow-patriarchate-freezes-ecumenical-journey-pope-never-commanded-in-the-east/#comment-14175 Wed, 29 Sep 2010 16:14:56 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=7777#comment-14175 If I had my druthers, we could stop 99% of this nonsense by making all functionaries, chancery officials, and ecclesial bureaucrats deacons and/or credentialed laymen. Bishops should be real bishops pastoring real dioceses and priests should be either real archimandrites leading monasteries or real rectors pastoring real parishes. As far as I’m concerned, even a bishop meditating in a cave or cell, undertaking a real ascetic struggle is doing the world a whole lot more good than these pencil-pushing academics who oversee extinct mountain-tops in Greece jet-setting to-and-from the next ecumenical summit or inter-Orthodox gathering on the ski slopes of Gstaad.

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By: Harry Coin https://www.aoiusa.org/moscow-patriarchate-freezes-ecumenical-journey-pope-never-commanded-in-the-east/#comment-14172 Wed, 29 Sep 2010 15:22:43 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=7777#comment-14172 In reply to Dean Calvert.

Watching Rueters report over the years on church issues, my impression is they are often first with a story that is as often wrong.

I think their reporters accurately report what the first man in black says to them — without checking, without balance as to the decision makers and participants.

In the end if the Roman/Vatican Pope retains the powers not formally repudiated yet in Vatican I (Christ’s vicar on earth, speaks of himself for the church, is universal diocesan (ordinary) bishop), etc. Then the Orthodox will be gone like a drop in their lake after a short while as the ‘finer points’ will dull and be forgotten by the majority— (for T. Nathaniel) that prefer the dwindling brotherhood of ordained young never married reassigners and protectors of the dubiously celibate who never sacrificed family and marriage as so many of them disliked women to begin with or at least preferred men to them.

So much focus on canons and rules made in the context of lopsided male-female ratio above 24 years old, and an abundance of widower bishops now gone from this world.

I feel so much like a fellow speaking about indoor plumbing to a group dedicated to the debate about what style of pot is best for carrying water daily from the stream to the villiage.

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By: Andrew https://www.aoiusa.org/moscow-patriarchate-freezes-ecumenical-journey-pope-never-commanded-in-the-east/#comment-14171 Wed, 29 Sep 2010 15:15:10 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=7777#comment-14171 This whole consultation is the equivalent of a eccelesiatical welfare program for sincecure staffers. How many dollars have been wasted on these meetings?
Its time to pull the plug and put the donations of hard working people to better use.

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By: Dean Calvert https://www.aoiusa.org/moscow-patriarchate-freezes-ecumenical-journey-pope-never-commanded-in-the-east/#comment-14169 Wed, 29 Sep 2010 14:38:59 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=7777#comment-14169 Axios! Metropolitan Hilarion.

We are now seeing the difference between a “live” and a “dead” Church.

The dead Sees want to accommodate Rome at any cost – to perpetuate the myth of their life.

The live Church essentially says, “R U Kidding me?”

It’s time for a Great and Holy Council all right…if only to sweep away the debris.

First they attempt to legitimize this uncanonical nonsense in America thru the Chambessy process, now they want to sell out to Rome.

I wonder how many pieces of silver they will get this time?

Best Regards,
Dean

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