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Comments on: Metropolitan Iakovos Speaks Out on Illinois ‘Reproductive Health and Access Act’ https://www.aoiusa.org/metropolitan-iakovos-speaks-out-on-illinois-reproductive-health-and-access-act/ A Research and Educational Organization that engages the cultural issues of the day within the Orthodox Christian Tradition Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:09:29 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.3.3 By: Fr. Peter https://www.aoiusa.org/metropolitan-iakovos-speaks-out-on-illinois-reproductive-health-and-access-act/#comment-7520 Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:09:29 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=1291#comment-7520 BRAVO! God Grant Him Many Years!

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By: David Holford https://www.aoiusa.org/metropolitan-iakovos-speaks-out-on-illinois-reproductive-health-and-access-act/#comment-7496 Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:37:50 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=1291#comment-7496 In reply to Theodoros.

Theodoros,

I saw that link when you posted it on the other thread. I am glad to see that the Church of Greece has made a public declaration of the Orthodox view of abortion and made a direct application of it to public policy. Now let’s see if they will excommunicate every Greek politician who has voted to legalise abortion in Greece or who has thereafter voted for legislation to make it easier to obtain.

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By: Theodoros https://www.aoiusa.org/metropolitan-iakovos-speaks-out-on-illinois-reproductive-health-and-access-act/#comment-7481 Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:21:07 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=1291#comment-7481 In reply to David Holford.

To David,

Regarding the Church of Greece see the following on right to life

http://www.bioethics.org.gr/en/03_c.html

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By: David Holford https://www.aoiusa.org/metropolitan-iakovos-speaks-out-on-illinois-reproductive-health-and-access-act/#comment-7462 Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:34:48 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=1291#comment-7462 In reply to George Michalopulos.

George, I agree with you, too, that there is little hope of getting the Greek hierarchs to do anything. That’s why there is little hope for the Greek Church to be anything other than an ethnic social club. It is the same reason that Greece has one of the highest abortion rates in Europe and the reason that some of the blame can be put at the feet of the Ecumenical Patriarch for going around the world promoting environmentalism and ignoring the deaths of thousands of Greek babies and not insisting that bishops of Greece proclaim and enforce the dogma of the Church with regard to the sanctity of life.

Failing to get the bishops to do their duty does not absolve the bishops of that duty, nor the faithful of the duty to remind them of that duty.

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By: George Michalopulos https://www.aoiusa.org/metropolitan-iakovos-speaks-out-on-illinois-reproductive-health-and-access-act/#comment-7459 Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:12:20 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=1291#comment-7459 David, let’s not get ahead of ourselves…As much as I agree with you, I gotta tell you, getting Evangelos, Gerasimos, and Whoeverlseimos to reprimand, cajole, or counselt the people you mentioned would be like having a snowstorm in July. Still, one can always hope.

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By: David Holford https://www.aoiusa.org/metropolitan-iakovos-speaks-out-on-illinois-reproductive-health-and-access-act/#comment-7458 Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:07:53 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=1291#comment-7458 In reply to George Michalopulos.

Not to take away from the actions of Metropolitan Iakovos, but I think there is hope for the GOA if Metropolitan Methodius speaks out against the abortion funding legislation that Sen. Olympia Snowe and Rep. Niki Tsongas have voted for in Congress and if Metropolitan Evangelos takes the same stand on the votes of Rep. John Sarbanes and if Metropolitan Gerasimos does the same with regard to Rep. Dina Titus.

I hope that Metropolitan Iakovos will call his brother hierarchs to have the same courage to speak out against the moral decline of the Greek Orthodox Church evidenced in the four of the five GOA members serving in Congress who are spending tax dollars in direct opposition to the teaching and dogma of the Church at the cost of thousands of unborn lives.

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By: George Michalopulos https://www.aoiusa.org/metropolitan-iakovos-speaks-out-on-illinois-reproductive-health-and-access-act/#comment-7455 Mon, 16 Nov 2009 04:47:34 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=1291#comment-7455 Bravo to Metropolitan +Iakovos! There is hope yet for the GOA.

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By: David Holford https://www.aoiusa.org/metropolitan-iakovos-speaks-out-on-illinois-reproductive-health-and-access-act/#comment-7447 Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:06:41 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=1291#comment-7447 In reply to Fr. Johannes Jacobse.

Thank you, Father.

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By: Fr. Johannes Jacobse https://www.aoiusa.org/metropolitan-iakovos-speaks-out-on-illinois-reproductive-health-and-access-act/#comment-7443 Sun, 15 Nov 2009 04:54:30 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=1291#comment-7443 In reply to David Holford.

Try here.

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By: David Holford https://www.aoiusa.org/metropolitan-iakovos-speaks-out-on-illinois-reproductive-health-and-access-act/#comment-7437 Sun, 15 Nov 2009 02:33:25 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=1291#comment-7437 It appears that the link to the letter is now dead. Any idea of another source for it?

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By: Scott Pennington https://www.aoiusa.org/metropolitan-iakovos-speaks-out-on-illinois-reproductive-health-and-access-act/#comment-3051 Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:12:08 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=1291#comment-3051 Given the unfortunate comments by Greek clergy over the past couple of weeks, I thought it important to laud this statement of Metropolitan Iakovos’. I hope that his actions inspire others.

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By: George Michalopulos https://www.aoiusa.org/metropolitan-iakovos-speaks-out-on-illinois-reproductive-health-and-access-act/#comment-3031 Wed, 25 Mar 2009 01:20:16 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=1291#comment-3031 a very good move indeed. we need to print this out and/or send it out to all the other GOA bishops, letting them know that they got to support Iakovos and replicate his efforts in their dioceses.

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By: Fr. Johannes Jacobse https://www.aoiusa.org/metropolitan-iakovos-speaks-out-on-illinois-reproductive-health-and-access-act/#comment-3011 Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:04:20 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=1291#comment-3011 Yup, give credit where credit is due. This is a good move by the Metropolis of Chicago.

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By: Andrew https://www.aoiusa.org/metropolitan-iakovos-speaks-out-on-illinois-reproductive-health-and-access-act/#comment-3010 Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:16:07 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=1291#comment-3010 As someone who is a frequent critic of the moral decline of Greek Orthodoxy in America I have to pause and praise the metropolis of Chicago for having the courage to speak out here. They deserve credit and positive feedback on this issue. Let’s hope there are more words like these in the future not less.

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