Comments on: Ligonier 1994: ‘A New Era Has Begun’

By: ROCOR and American Orthodoxy — Monomakhos

ROCOR and American Orthodoxy — Monomakhos — Sat, 21 Jan 2012 04:05:56 +0000

[…] Both Metropolitan +Philip and Archbishop +Iakovos took the bold step at authentic Orthodox unity at Ligonier in 1994 to wide acclaim (if to no avail). The Orthodox Church in America (at least under the auspices of St […]

By: George Michalopulos

George Michalopulos — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 01:55:39 +0000

Isa, +Iakovos has definately gone into the old memory hole.

By: Isa Almisry

Isa Almisry — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 18:25:19 +0000

Dean #3.

I have no trouble believing it. History can be such a pain: all those things you have to go into denial about. LOL.

Archb. Iakovos of blessed memory was certainly there, or has he been erased from their collective memory too?

Btw, York and Foster, LOL. You mean Elmhearst from where I’m from. See you later.

By: George Michalopulos

George Michalopulos — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 01:17:23 +0000

Andrew, I believe you’re correct. Andrew, I hope Met Joseph is wrong, but I assume he’s right. sigh.

By: Michael Bauman

Michael Bauman — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 18:54:41 +0000

On the 10th Anniversay of Ligonier, The Antiochian Word magazine did interviews with some of the attendees. Met. Joseph of the Patriarchal Bulgarian Archdiocese of North America, Canada and Australia said among other things that before the vision of Ligonier was accomplished all participants would have to be dead.

That leaves at least 20 years or so following a natural time-line.

Met. Joseph is a sober and monastary formed man. An excellent bishop. Personally, I wish he had more parishes in this country.

By: Andrew

Andrew — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 18:06:48 +0000

It would be interesting to do a whatever happened to piece on the bishops who attended Ligonier.

Who is alive? Who reposed? Who got “retired”? Who flip-flopped etc?

Lets also remember one thing that it was not even the Greeks (at the time) who revolted against Ligonier. I may need corrected here but I belive The two chief culprits who ran crying to the Phanar were +Nicholas of Amissos of the American Carpatho Russian Orthodox Church and +Vsevelod of Scopelos of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church.

By: Dean Calvert

Dean Calvert — Tue, 08 Sep 2009 16:10:12 +0000

Andrew,

see this post on

10 | Dean Calvert | August 22, 2009 | 2:20 pm

Another article by Metropolitan Methodios:

An Eyewitness to Orthodox History

By Bishop Methodios of Boston

(as originally published in The Hellenic Chronicle, 12-15-94)

amazing isn’t it….sure glad Charles Ajalat decided to record it all…otherwise they wouldn’t have even admitted going.

I’ve actually had Greek priests tell me that the GOA did not participate in Ligonier..believe that or not.

Oh well.

Best Regards,
dean

By: Andrew

Andrew — Mon, 07 Sep 2009 21:49:39 +0000

Somebody should juxtapose the comments of Met. Methodios in 1994 with the comments he made on video recently in the HCHC Chapel.

By: George Michalopulos

George Michalopulos — Mon, 07 Sep 2009 15:57:58 +0000

the more things change, the more they stay the same…