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Comments on: Krauthammer: Sacrilege at Ground Zero https://www.aoiusa.org/krauthammer-no-to-mosque-at-ground-zero/ A Research and Educational Organization that engages the cultural issues of the day within the Orthodox Christian Tradition Wed, 25 Aug 2010 15:22:24 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.3.3 By: alexis banias https://www.aoiusa.org/krauthammer-no-to-mosque-at-ground-zero/#comment-13559 Wed, 25 Aug 2010 15:22:24 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=7417#comment-13559 GREAT JOB, C.K.!! CONTINUE THE WRITING WITH CAJONES!!

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By: Chris https://www.aoiusa.org/krauthammer-no-to-mosque-at-ground-zero/#comment-13354 Wed, 18 Aug 2010 03:02:08 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=7417#comment-13354 In reply to online spielkasino.

So you’re saying that Islamists are like our Banks? 😉

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By: online spielkasino https://www.aoiusa.org/krauthammer-no-to-mosque-at-ground-zero/#comment-13305 Mon, 16 Aug 2010 13:38:58 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=7417#comment-13305 What if your gaurdian over your account of money wont let you have your money?

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By: George Michalopulos https://www.aoiusa.org/krauthammer-no-to-mosque-at-ground-zero/#comment-13303 Mon, 16 Aug 2010 12:44:32 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=7417#comment-13303 Chris, I believe it’s probably a mix of both and probably some other things as well.

Let me state at this point the usual caveats: Most Muslims are not violent, hate the horros of jihad, want to be left alone, etc. All true. The problem however won’t go away. So what is our response? Toleration? Surrender?

Islam “is what it is.” I know that’s a trite, overused phrase. However it’s true. So, what is our response? As a civilization and as a Christian confession? That’s the only thing within our control at this point.

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By: Chris https://www.aoiusa.org/krauthammer-no-to-mosque-at-ground-zero/#comment-13300 Mon, 16 Aug 2010 00:04:31 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=7417#comment-13300 Are we sure that all non-violent Muslims do not speak out because they are afraid, or is it quiet approval, perhaps they just sit back and let the louder more agressive Muslims do their thing because they are the ones who “get things done?”

Do not all Muslims read the same Quran?

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By: RZ https://www.aoiusa.org/krauthammer-no-to-mosque-at-ground-zero/#comment-13286 Sun, 15 Aug 2010 11:35:34 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=7417#comment-13286 Chris, there are numerous moderate Muslims who reject terrorism, sharia and every violation of human rights. Unfortunately, in-country moderates are persecuted, and even in America and Canada, they will sometimes receive death threats from more radical Muslims for speaking out. Fear is a powerful tool. I’m hoping that we can discuss issues like this without alienating or harming those moderates who may be our allies.

http://www.globalpolitician.com/23422-islamism

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By: Chris https://www.aoiusa.org/krauthammer-no-to-mosque-at-ground-zero/#comment-13284 Sun, 15 Aug 2010 04:14:14 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=7417#comment-13284 In reply to RZ.

RZ. I think there is such thing as moderate muslims. I used to, but I’m not so sure any longer.

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By: Andrew https://www.aoiusa.org/krauthammer-no-to-mosque-at-ground-zero/#comment-13283 Sun, 15 Aug 2010 02:06:38 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=7417#comment-13283 Wow! Newsflash! Check out the video for yourself on youtube.

Greek Orthodox Archdiocese Responds to Questions About St. Nicholas Church and Proposed Cordoba Center at Ground Zero.

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By: Harry Coin https://www.aoiusa.org/krauthammer-no-to-mosque-at-ground-zero/#comment-13282 Sun, 15 Aug 2010 00:41:23 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=7417#comment-13282 In reply to Fr. Johannes Jacobse.

I wonder if there isn’t energy to turn that land into money if it can be made to seem ‘someone elses fault’. Quite the parcel of real estate, no? Rent it to whoever builds something large and profitable on it? Perahps deed it elseeast first? Didn’t someone overseas ask for realestate to be titled in the EP’s name here in the US? DhimmiRUs?

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By: RZ https://www.aoiusa.org/krauthammer-no-to-mosque-at-ground-zero/#comment-13281 Sat, 14 Aug 2010 23:57:12 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=7417#comment-13281 On the one hand, I support religious freedom whether it be Mormon, Catholic, Orthodox or Muslim. On the other, while most Muslims are certainly not terrorists, a substantial percentage still embrace sharia law throughout the world. The civilized world is either ignorant or downplaying the brutalities of what this entails. I, for one, never want to see this within our borders. More moderate Muslims with influence need to speak louder in rejecting this not only here but abroad.

(Warning: some of the images might be disturbing to some.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQdMroyXDZQ

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By: George Michalopulos https://www.aoiusa.org/krauthammer-no-to-mosque-at-ground-zero/#comment-13279 Sat, 14 Aug 2010 17:13:26 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=7417#comment-13279 In reply to Fr. John.

One reason the Archons waste so many man-hours is because they would rather pursue quixotic quests that will never happen rather than take responsibility for things that are do-able and would make a difference in the real world. Like build an orphanage, hospital, run a soup kitchen, etc. Those things would make them accountable. Instead, like most GOA bishops, they are comically trying to play the victim card. Eventually the nostalgia-worship will wear off.

In fairness to some of the Archons at least, it appears that Michael Jaharis has taken stock of the recent past within the GOA and come to a more sobering realization of where we are. We need to praise him for this because the usual inertia is always in danger of settling in. If you read his speech and then read The Orthodox Disturber’s version of it, then you can see that the 79th St bureaucrats went right back to promolgating the happy-clappy spin on GOA-land.

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By: George Michalopulos https://www.aoiusa.org/krauthammer-no-to-mosque-at-ground-zero/#comment-13278 Sat, 14 Aug 2010 17:02:06 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=7417#comment-13278 In reply to Fr. John.

Fr John, your words sting, and rightly so. True, it’s sad, but our little “klatch” may be the only group of resolute Orthodox Christians out there speaking on this and other matters. What are we gonna do? Listen to the GOA bishops who are in a heated debate over the proper pronunciation of the word baklava? It’d be nice if those sob-sisters who are always crying about Halki had any moral courage but I don’t think it should stop us from crying out.

Although I’ve become more aware of the differences in the ministries within the Church and the necessity of maintaining good order, ultimately, the final authority in the Church is the people of God. Prophetic witness must come from the bishops but if they won’t exercize it, then we should force them to do so in any moral, ethnical, and non-violent way as possible. If we don’t, then we’ll have to give an account for our apathy I’m afraid.

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By: Fr. Johannes Jacobse https://www.aoiusa.org/krauthammer-no-to-mosque-at-ground-zero/#comment-13275 Sat, 14 Aug 2010 15:36:18 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=7417#comment-13275 In reply to Fr. John.

Well, I wrote an editorial on it for the Hellenic Voice but it appears they have not published it. First time they held back on a submission. I’ll go ahead and publish here and on OT. Maybe that will get some traction. It has a few more paragraphs than the one I published on Catholic Online.

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By: Andrew https://www.aoiusa.org/krauthammer-no-to-mosque-at-ground-zero/#comment-13273 Sat, 14 Aug 2010 15:21:29 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=7417#comment-13273 The issue of St. Nicholas Church being rebuilt as well as the Cordova Center at Ground Zero is another good reason the GOA bishops should not give up their freedom to speak and become Turkish Citizens.

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By: Fr. John https://www.aoiusa.org/krauthammer-no-to-mosque-at-ground-zero/#comment-13253 Sat, 14 Aug 2010 02:46:55 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=7417#comment-13253 I wonder if there is another group of more influential Orthodox people than this little klatch we have here who can motivate some Orthodox action on this matter. It’s maddening to sit here at the keyboard with only ‘youse guys’ on the other end agreeing. Where do the much-vaunted Archons stand on this matter? How many man-hours do they waste every year blabbing about the quixotic project of re-opening Haghia Sophia for Orthodox worship (yeah, and monkey will fly out of my a*%$) and, as far as I know, they are mute regarding this much more realistic fight on territory which has not yet been lost to the Dar el Islam.

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