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Comments on: Jacobse. Philadelphia: The Cost of Equivocation https://www.aoiusa.org/jacobse-philadelphia-the-cost-of-equivocation/ A Research and Educational Organization that engages the cultural issues of the day within the Orthodox Christian Tradition Tue, 25 Jan 2011 21:10:38 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.3.3 By: alexis banias https://www.aoiusa.org/jacobse-philadelphia-the-cost-of-equivocation/#comment-17495 Tue, 25 Jan 2011 21:10:38 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=8881#comment-17495 In reply to Geo Michalopulos.

Great to hear from you, Brother George! I wish you peace, good health, and many blessings this New Year! Great work with the Tulsa Pro-Life March!

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By: Geo Michalopulos https://www.aoiusa.org/jacobse-philadelphia-the-cost-of-equivocation/#comment-17442 Sun, 23 Jan 2011 19:48:01 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=8881#comment-17442 Alexis, you raise several important questions. I wish I could give you a good answer, one that would stand the test of logic and Scripture. Unfortunately, I can’t.

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By: alexis banias https://www.aoiusa.org/jacobse-philadelphia-the-cost-of-equivocation/#comment-17440 Sun, 23 Jan 2011 16:16:48 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=8881#comment-17440 Why aren’t the Orthodox Christian Hierarchs in the United States declaring a National Day of Prayer and Fasting on the anniversary of Roe vs. Wade? Or, for that matter why aren’t all so-called “Christian” churches nationwide declaring this? I understand the annual Pro-Life March in Washington, D.C. is a nice public gesture (I’ve attended and froze at quite a few), but all U.S. Christian pastors need to be standing united on the desks of those on Capitol Hill demanding an end to this 38-year holocaust! Why doesn’t the Greek Orthodox Observer newspaper make this holocaust paramount on its front page yearly?! Or are we on this earth to make nice safe speeches, grow long beards, and have ornate processions?!

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By: Nick Katich https://www.aoiusa.org/jacobse-philadelphia-the-cost-of-equivocation/#comment-17438 Sun, 23 Jan 2011 13:40:05 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=8881#comment-17438 In reply to Fr. Johannes Jacobse.

Fr. Hans: I do not believe it is so much about abortion per se because the same liberals promote directly or indirectly the concept of euthanasia. On the latter, the right to control one’s body seems to be irrelevant to them. Also, consider how they want to control what we eat, etc. The liberals know that one of the core beliefs of Chritianity is sanctity of life and an antithesis with regard to abortion. This is really an attack on Christianity itself. Abortion is only the expedient vehicle of that attack.

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By: Fr. Johannes Jacobse https://www.aoiusa.org/jacobse-philadelphia-the-cost-of-equivocation/#comment-17436 Sun, 23 Jan 2011 13:03:20 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=8881#comment-17436 Moral equivalency works both ways. too. From the pro-abort side, Bp. Savas can be read to support abortion as an anti-poverty program. More on this later.

Did you read where Obama came out with full throated support for Roe v. Wade?

“Government should not intrude on private family matters,” he said. Meanwhile, Obamacare turns every private decision over to government!

Liberals, it seems, want to regulate everything except abortion.

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By: Fr. Johannes: Philadelphia – The Cost of Equivocation | OrthodoxNet.com Blog https://www.aoiusa.org/jacobse-philadelphia-the-cost-of-equivocation/#comment-17425 Sat, 22 Jan 2011 22:12:05 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=8881#comment-17425 […] HT: AOI. […]

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By: Geo Michalopulos https://www.aoiusa.org/jacobse-philadelphia-the-cost-of-equivocation/#comment-17423 Sat, 22 Jan 2011 21:50:08 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=8881#comment-17423 Chris, Bishop Savas is like most liberals. He believes that by pointing out a lesser evil (poverty) he will get a moral pass by not addressing the greater evil (abortion, which is the taking of an innocent human life). This is no different than refusing to condemn Bernie Madoff because chicken thievery is rampant.

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By: Chris Banescu https://www.aoiusa.org/jacobse-philadelphia-the-cost-of-equivocation/#comment-17418 Sat, 22 Jan 2011 21:16:14 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=8881#comment-17418 Speaking of equivocation, here’s a perfect example from Bishop Savas Zembillas. On a note titled “Roe vs. Wade” on his facebook wall that his facebook friend has posted, he replied with “Amen” to this comment:

While noting (and lamenting) the passing of Roe vs Wade and the millions of unborn children who have died, I gently admonish my brothers and sisters in the pro-life camp to also consider those childrens’ older siblings who, while given the chance to live, have grown up with crushing poverty, limited health care, and broken homes. May we extend the same concern to these little ones and fight for their rights as much as we have those abused in the womb.

Bishop Savas does this a day before the Sanctity of Life Sunday!

This is exactly the same equivocation that Bishop Savas proclaims regarding his views on abortion (it’s one of his favorite quotes in his profile):

Given the demographics of abortion—which shows a terrible over-representation of young, single, urban, low-income African-American women—I do not understand how a pro-life agenda can be divorced from a social justice agenda. It is impossible for a Christian to acquiesce in policies that allow doctors to suck the life out of a fetus—yet it is deplorably common for Christians to eagerly encourage “conservative” policies that perpetuate poverty, substandard education, and inadequate healthcare for these littlest ones, once they have left the womb.

Compare his public stance on abortion with Metropolitan Jonah’s clear, direct, and truly Orthodox public witness:

The world validates abortion, the sacrifice of the life of an innocent child for the convenience of the mother, oblivious to the suffering it will cause that very woman. It depersonalizes the child, as a “fetus;” while at the same time developing technologies to save nearly identical fetuses in troubled pregnancies. The criterion is not the life of the child; the criterion is simply the desire of the parent: whether the parent wants the child or not. If so, no expense is spared. If not, it is a useless bother, a mass of flesh to be excised like a tumor. What is left, however, is a lifetime of regret, guilt, self-hatred and self-loathing. This is not just an act, but a state of sin.

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