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Comments on: Holy Synod Announces Changes [CLOSED] https://www.aoiusa.org/holy-synod-announces-changes/ A Research and Educational Organization that engages the cultural issues of the day within the Orthodox Christian Tradition Sat, 05 Mar 2011 04:31:41 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.3.3 By: Geo Michalopulos https://www.aoiusa.org/holy-synod-announces-changes/#comment-18529 Mon, 28 Feb 2011 14:13:55 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=9245#comment-18529 In reply to Nick Katich.

Nick, I could be wrong but I didn’t pickup any nervosness at all. Instead confidence and defiance. I caught the Boehner-crying jag but that’s understandable.

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By: Geo Michalopulos https://www.aoiusa.org/holy-synod-announces-changes/#comment-18528 Mon, 28 Feb 2011 14:07:17 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=9245#comment-18528 In reply to Dean Calvert.

Dean, I’ve recently received an e-mail exchange from some of the principals involved on the anti-+Jonah side. It’s difficult to sort through but the bottom line is that a coup was being attempted over the last couple of weeks. I smelled a rat in Stokoe’s well-written piece, namely that prejudgment was the order of the day and a trap was being set up for +Jonah to fall through. Stokoe’s bill of particulars against +Jonah weren’t written in a day but are the result of careful note-taking going on at least for six months or so. If not longer. It appears that Garklavs report was the bait, especially the fact that he wasn’t going to give HB the decency of a “heads-up.+ HB may have taken the bait and fallen into the trap of anger at being left out of the loop (after he’s on the Holy Synod too). Hence his hasty decision to to cut short the Dallas engagment with Alfeyev and catch the red-eye back to Syosset.

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By: Nick Katich https://www.aoiusa.org/holy-synod-announces-changes/#comment-18520 Mon, 28 Feb 2011 02:32:44 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=9245#comment-18520 In reply to Dean Calvert.

Hi Dean:

Was it a coincidence that the Chambesy group was meeting at the same time..discussing autocephaly procedures?

In my opinion, there was no coincidence.

Personally, I smell a setup here…some people knew this was going to happen.

I don’t think it was a “setup”. I think that Met. Jonah knew what was going to happen a week or two ago. He did not go into the retreat caught off guard. That is my best guess. I think the handwriting was on the wall when he recently went back to Moscow. I’m not a fortune teller. But, when he went to Moscow when he did, shortly ahead of the Chambesy meeting, my radar said “This is going to be a problem”.

I also don’t think the Synod decided to “can” him. I think they decided that over-zealousness and immaturity was at play and they said, “Go reflect, think this through, and then let’s talk later”. At least, I hope that is what happened. Otherwise, the press release was dishonest.

I’ve given my thoughts on why I think he was wrong and premature in wanting to re-think the autocephaly in other posts, so I won’t repeat those here.

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By: Dean Calvert https://www.aoiusa.org/holy-synod-announces-changes/#comment-18519 Mon, 28 Feb 2011 01:58:21 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=9245#comment-18519 Hi Nick,

Don’t take my comments to mean I am dismissing the events of the past 48 hours. I’m not…not for a minute.

But i do get the sense that we are witnessing only the tip of the iceberg….that most of the action remains hidden from public view. Just a guess.

And I think Macedonia’s question is a good one…how does this come in from Romfea first? Sorry, but the Mossad the Greeks ain’t.

Was it a coincidence that the Chambesy group was meeting at the same time..discussing autocephaly procedures?

Personally, I smell a setup here…some people knew this was going to happen. Answer the question “why” and we’d probably have a big piece of the puzzle filled in.

Anyway, I take it VERY seriously….believe me

Best Regards,
Dean

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By: Nick Katich https://www.aoiusa.org/holy-synod-announces-changes/#comment-18518 Mon, 28 Feb 2011 01:42:07 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=9245#comment-18518 In reply to Dean Calvert.

Dean: for what it is worth, he seemed worried, nervous, humbled but defiant. If that’s an oxymoron, so be it, but that’s how he seemed. He also almost pulled a Boehner cry at one point but composed himself. I am not taking any particular side. However, this IS serious. How it will play out, we can only guess and pray.

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By: Macedonia74 https://www.aoiusa.org/holy-synod-announces-changes/#comment-18509 Sun, 27 Feb 2011 23:55:59 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=9245#comment-18509 In reply to Dean Calvert.

The questions are:

Why would a foreign publication report on this first? And why would someone want to exaggerate this situation? As it stands, I’ve notice that even this statment by His Beatitude isn’t enough for some.

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By: Dean Calvert https://www.aoiusa.org/holy-synod-announces-changes/#comment-18508 Sun, 27 Feb 2011 23:29:36 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=9245#comment-18508 The Metropolitan made a statement today at St. Nicholas Cathedral:

https://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fvimeo.com%2F20435460&h=a9034

I think reports of his demise are greatly exaggerated.

best regards,
Dean

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By: Eliot Ryan https://www.aoiusa.org/holy-synod-announces-changes/#comment-18495 Sat, 26 Feb 2011 23:42:27 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=9245#comment-18495

His Beatitude presented a request to the Holy Synod for a time of personal retreat and spiritual renewal.

This is something I understand. I would love to go somewhere, detached from worldly life and worldly things. I am SO tired and I have no place to rest.

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