Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property WP_Object_Cache::$global_prefix is deprecated in /home/aoiusa/public_html/wp-content/object-cache.php on line 468

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property WP_Object_Cache::$blog_prefix is deprecated in /home/aoiusa/public_html/wp-content/object-cache.php on line 469

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property WP_Object_Cache::$cache_hits is deprecated in /home/aoiusa/public_html/wp-content/object-cache.php on line 475

Deprecated: Creation of dynamic property WP_Object_Cache::$cache_misses is deprecated in /home/aoiusa/public_html/wp-content/object-cache.php on line 476

Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home/aoiusa/public_html/wp-content/object-cache.php:468) in /home/aoiusa/public_html/wp-includes/feed-rss2-comments.php on line 8
Comments on: Egypt: The Realist Scenario https://www.aoiusa.org/egypt-the-realist-scenario/ A Research and Educational Organization that engages the cultural issues of the day within the Orthodox Christian Tradition Sat, 12 Feb 2011 20:20:20 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.3.3 By: Macedonia74 https://www.aoiusa.org/egypt-the-realist-scenario/#comment-18064 Sat, 12 Feb 2011 20:20:20 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=9079#comment-18064 In reply to Steve Farrell.

And perhaps the people of Islam aren’t able to organize themselves in anything that closely resembles a democracy. In fact I’m pretty confident that they cannot. Yet I have hope. But if we’re true to our own principles, then we have to let them try without our own “complexes” getting in the way. And certainly, current international policy that we’ve been utilizing from administration to administration – one of nation building, spreading of pornography, and now, pre-emptive strikes will not make Islam to cease. This will inflame it. And maybe that is what these “interests” actually want …

]]>
By: Steve Farrell https://www.aoiusa.org/egypt-the-realist-scenario/#comment-18063 Sat, 12 Feb 2011 18:48:54 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=9079#comment-18063 Thanks for some needed balance.

]]>
By: Macedonia74 https://www.aoiusa.org/egypt-the-realist-scenario/#comment-18047 Sat, 12 Feb 2011 09:30:20 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=9079#comment-18047 This is where my beef is:

Obama’s implicit treatment of Egypt’s current government as a spent force is short-sighted and detrimental to a stable solution. The regime of Hosni Mubarak has been very good to America. For almost three decades it has honored the peace treaty with Israel signed in 1979 by Mubarak’s slain predecessor Anwar al Sadat. On many occasions, and notably during the Second Intifada, it ignored the pressure of “the Street” and rejected the lure of pan-Arabism. The U.S. Navy has enjoyed privileged access to the Suez Canal—a key consideration in Washington’s overall Middle Eastern strategy—and the Pentagon was free to stage elaborate war games in Egypt’s deserts. Egypt was an active participant in the first Iraqi war in 1991 and a silent American partner in its 2003 sequel. It has provided non-lethal support to the “Allied” effort in Afghanistan. It has shared anti-terrorist intelligence with U.S. agencies at all levels of classification. Unlike Saudi Arabia it was a true “American ally,” one of the few in the Arab world and the most important one of them all

Mubarak was our creation, and the “Koza Nostra” that’s coming in now, is also our creation. Much like the Taliban was our creation, and the UCK was our creation. For it was our current standing VicePresident who once told the late President of Macedonia, Boris Trajkovski regarding the UCK in Kosovo, “It’s not about what is right, it’s about what we can do!” Until we muster up the courage to say that America is not acting within our own laws, none of this will cease.

And finally, why does it have to be “Western style Democracy”? Why can’t it be a form of democracy that happens in the Middle East that the people of the Middle East decide for themselves? What’s wrong with Middle Eastern Democracy?

]]>
By: Geo Michalopulos https://www.aoiusa.org/egypt-the-realist-scenario/#comment-18043 Sat, 12 Feb 2011 04:44:39 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=9079#comment-18043 You know, there is a parallel reality that is going on as we speak, one that has civilizational consequences. Just yesterday, President Sarkozy gave a speech declaring that multiculturalism is dead. He now joins Prime Minister David Cameron of Great Britain and Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany who first sounded this trumpet.

Think of it: the three largest and wealthiest European countries have awoken from their leftist/secularist torpor; the scales have fallen from their eyes. The irony? We in America cannot yet join them (we will eventually –too late perhaps?) because our Ruling Class is still beholden to this dangerous and stupid ideology.

For us Orthodox Christians our hands are even more tied. How are we to be led to rectitude by those of us whose leaders are dhimmi bishops? Where is the clarity that is needed coming out of Istanbul, Alexandria, or Damascus? Or are the Archons going to keep on subjugating the GOA laity to permanent hostage status?

]]>
By: Scott Pennington https://www.aoiusa.org/egypt-the-realist-scenario/#comment-18027 Fri, 11 Feb 2011 19:05:02 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=9079#comment-18027 “The regime believed in a firmly guided democracy, mistrustful of ‘the people’s’ ability to decide what was good for them.”

“Vice President Omar Suleiman should be given a chance to continue that quest by incremental reforms within the framework of a firmly guided democracy. If he fails the Brotherhood will win, and duly condemn as rebellion against Allah’s supremacy the submission to any form of law other than the Shari’a. It is to be hoped that Egypt’s political class and military officers will prevent that outcome regardless of Obama’s expectations and advice.”

I like this Tifkovic fellow more and more each time I read him. I would really like to hear him elaborate on what he considers to be the fundamentals of a “firmly guided democracy”.

]]>
By: Andrew https://www.aoiusa.org/egypt-the-realist-scenario/#comment-18026 Fri, 11 Feb 2011 18:51:27 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=9079#comment-18026 Lights Out for the Christians of the Middle East?

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/259534/lights-out-middle-east-s-christians-rich-lowry

]]>
By: Tuesday Highlights | Pseudo-Polymath https://www.aoiusa.org/egypt-the-realist-scenario/#comment-17892 Tue, 08 Feb 2011 14:39:59 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=9079#comment-17892 […] Talking about the Coptic situation. […]

]]>