Comments on: Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew sums up visit with Greek ‘diaspora’ in America

By: Fr. Peter Dubinin

Fr. Peter Dubinin — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 18:45:39 +0000

In reply to David Holford. Wow - could it be the grand inquisitor from the Brothers K.?

By: David Holford

David Holford — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:02:30 +0000

In reply to Joseph.

“Patriarch walks on water!” would certainly get more attention than “Patriarch openly rejects dogma of the Church so everyone else will like him!” Matthew 7:22-23 comes to mind…

By: Joseph

Joseph — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:38:11 +0000

Now wouldn't that be something, Patriarch walks on Water...! Seems as if we could be heading for an offical church and an authentic Church here in the U.S. I think you're on to something. I will endeavour to be always in the authentic church.

By: Michael Bauman

Michael Bauman — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:02:34 +0000

RE comment #1: Unless the Patriarch is really holy, he didn’t walk from
Turkey and the jet he took has far more impact than all of the cars he could possibly take anywhere.

RE comment #2: Of course, the gentleman ignores the controversy surrounding the anthrogenic impact on the bioshpere and climate. In any case, I guess it’s just too much to expect that Christians be controversial since the joys of the state are the joys of the Church, no?

Seems as if we could be heading for an offical church and an authentic Church here in the U.S.

By: Andrew

Andrew — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:33:55 +0000

Here we go again! Nothing like having the children of the parish ready to promote the politics of the Green Patriarch. Check out the following article: Greek Orthodox: Utahns learning from 'Green Patriarch' Bartholomew teaches rising generations to care for planet. By Peggy Fletcher Stack The Salt Lake Tribune Updated: 11/20/2009 11:59:47 AM MST http://www.sltrib.com/faith/ci_13826924 The quotes that really get your attention are the following:

"He is pretty cool," Michael Zoumudakis said. "I like how he walks instead of taking cars all the time."

AND

"I am so pleased that our patriarch is talking about the environment rather than controversial issues such as abortion or gay marriage," Pilar Pappas said. "He could help unite people."

By: George Michalopulos

George Michalopulos — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:58:37 +0000

For that matter, Tsar Nicholas was about 7/8th’s Teutonic (German, Danish, probably some Swedish).

By: Joseph

Joseph — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:13:33 +0000

And if you want modern Orthodox Saints from Germany: New Martyr, Princess St. Elisabeth Alexandra Luise Alice von Hessen-Darmstadt und bei Rhein and her sister Tzarina St. Alexandra.

By: Michael Bauman

Michael Bauman — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:53:31 +0000

In reply to Joseph. Thanks

By: Joseph

Joseph — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:49:01 +0000

Michael,
Here is a list with names of Orthodox Saints in Germany…although some were foreign born, most are of German descent and born in Germany. The list is still far from complete… One can easily find their vitas through Google.

Orthodoxe Heiligenleben

Der hl. Abt Otmar
Der hl. Gaudentius Bischof von Chur und Konstanz
Der hl. Märt. Florian und 40 Gefährten von Lorch
Der hl. Märt. Quirinus von Tegernsee
Die Hl. Sarmannina
Hl. Friulphus
Die Hl. Äbtissin Lioba von Bischofsheim
Der hl. Bischof Valentinianus von Passau
Hl. Erhard von Regensburg
Geistl. Märt. Aquilinus
Die Hl. Jungfrau Hadeloga
Hl. Abt Alto
Der hl. Märtyrerbischof Blasius
Der hl. Kastor von Trier
Die Hl. Äbtissin Walburga von Eichstädt
Der Heilige apostelgleiche Abtbischof Rupertus von
Salzburg
Der hl. Eustasius
Der ger. Märt. Trudpert vom Münstertal bei Freiburg im
Breisgau
Der hl. Isidor von Brandenburg und Rostow
Der geistliche Märtyrer Bonifacius, der Apostel der
Deutschen
Die Geistlichen Märtyrer Bischof Kilian, der Priester
Colomanus, und der Diakon Totnanus von Würzburg
Der Hl. Abba Landelinus
Der hl. Donatus von Münstereifel
Der geistliche Willibaldus Bischof von Eichstädt
Der hl. Prokopij von Lübeck, Wundertäter von Ustjug
Der Hl. Winthir von Neuhausen in München
Die Hl. Märt. Afra von Augsburg
ihre Mutter Hilaria, und ihre Mägde Digna, Eunomia und
Der hl. Abt und Bekenner Wigbertus
Hl. Radegundis
Die hl. Jungfrau Verena, zu Zurzach
Die Jungfräuliche Märtyrerin Wolfsindis,”schnelle Helferin” von Reisbach.
Der hl. Bischof Corbinianus von Freising
Hl. Märt. Landelinus von Ettenheimmünster,
Der geistliche Märt. Heimhrami, im Volksmund Emmeram,
von Regensburg
Der hl. Remedius von Tirol
Der geistl. Märt. Dionysius in Regensburg
Der Hl. Märt. Kassius von Köln
Der hl. Lubentius von Cobern
Der hl. Bischof Burcardus
Der hl. Abba Wulfilaich der Säulensteher
Der Hl. Wendelin von Trier
Der hl. Bischof Willibrordus
Der hl. Bischof Kunibert von Köln und Trier
Bischof Virgil von Salzburg
Hl. Witwe und Stifterin Bilhildis
Der hl. Wunibaldus von Eichstädt
Hl. Bernward von Hildesheim

By: Michael Bauman

Michael Bauman — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:52:52 +0000

In reply to Joseph. Joseph, there are many Orthodox saints who worked in Germany, who loved Germany and combated the paganism and Arianism that was so prevalent (Mother Walburga is a favorite of mine). She and her brother came from England. I am looking specifically for someone born and raised in Germany. Just as I think the elevation of Matuska Olga that Met. Jonah has promised will mean a great deal for the Church in America, so a saint that was specifically German would be a great thing. I'm not really counting the Swiss and Austrians either.

By: Theodoros

Theodoros — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:41:58 +0000

In reply to Andrew.

Andrew,

I hate to bring up the same topic over again, but the reason why
Greeks like myself maintain respect and devotion for the Ecumenical
Patriarchate is because it has endured and reflected a Christianity
that is in fact hated. This is an alternate side that contrasts
sharply with the whole environmental agenda which has been on display
here.

Theodoros

By: Andrew

Andrew — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:26:26 +0000

The Green Patriarch says

”Greek-Americans enjoy the respect of the US authorities”.

The EP should remember the words of St. Ignatius of Antioch who said “Christianity shows its greatness when it is hated by the world”

By: Joseph

Joseph — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:19:02 +0000

In reply to Michael Bauman.

Michael,
Bauman, I thought so 🙂
I am Canadian, but frequenting a couple of German speaking Orthodox Forums. There is work in progress to list all the Orthodox German Saints and their shrines in Germany, Switzerland and Austria, of whom are quite a number. Many have beautiful shrines dedicated to them and are pilgimage sites for mainly Roman faithful, but recently there have been organized pilgrimages for the increasing native and immigrated Orthodox of Germany. A similar enterprise is in progress in the British Isles… Fr. Ilya Gotlinksy is planning a pilgrimage to the sites of Orthodox Saints in GB and Ireland next fall…

By: Fr. Johannes Jacobse

Fr. Johannes Jacobse — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:34:19 +0000

In reply to Greg. You make them with your keys. I'll see if I can find a bar you can click on.

By: Michael Bauman

Michael Bauman — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:49:10 +0000

In reply to Joseph. Thank you Joseph, I've have looked, off and on, for years since I am of German descent. All of the saints I could find were born somewhere else and then went to Germany (many from England). I'll take a look at it. My sister-in-law who is native Swiss did quite a study on it and found one or two as I remember. Of course my definition of German may be more restrictive than some. I'll look at your link.