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Comments on: Dangerous Flirting: Russia Wonders Why West Is Enamoured With Socialism https://www.aoiusa.org/dangerous-flirting-russia-wonders-why-west-is-enamoured-with-socialism/ A Research and Educational Organization that engages the cultural issues of the day within the Orthodox Christian Tradition Mon, 09 Jul 2012 03:51:27 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.3.3 By: cynthia curran https://www.aoiusa.org/dangerous-flirting-russia-wonders-why-west-is-enamoured-with-socialism/#comment-25029 Mon, 09 Jul 2012 03:51:27 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=12004#comment-25029 I mean offsping could get from their inheritance.

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By: cynthia curran https://www.aoiusa.org/dangerous-flirting-russia-wonders-why-west-is-enamoured-with-socialism/#comment-25028 Mon, 09 Jul 2012 03:49:57 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=12004#comment-25028 Well, believe it or not the Byzantines had nuclear families but live closer to their relatives, in the later periods extended famliy members had more control over the nuclear family. In fact, the Byzantines expanded the rights offspring from their inheritance. There was a law suit case in the 6th century between a daughter and a mother where the mother was able to get some of the inheritance back that the daughter received from her deceased father. There was a lot of middle class behavior in the old Byzantine empire like relatives suing each other.

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By: Michael Bauman https://www.aoiusa.org/dangerous-flirting-russia-wonders-why-west-is-enamoured-with-socialism/#comment-25023 Sun, 08 Jul 2012 13:08:31 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=12004#comment-25023 In reply to Corneliu Ilea.

All things that try to capture man’s heart from God and replace Him with an idol are from the devil and therefore demonic. Some are more directly so than others—unless of course you don’t believe in the the unseen, good and evil?

The Gospel is quite un-nuanced on these matters.

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By: Fr. Johannes Jacobse https://www.aoiusa.org/dangerous-flirting-russia-wonders-why-west-is-enamoured-with-socialism/#comment-25022 Sun, 08 Jul 2012 11:44:23 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=12004#comment-25022 In reply to Corneliu Ilea.

Whenever I hear the term “nuanced” my euphemism alert starts flashing. Mind telling us what those nuances are?

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By: Corneliu Ilea https://www.aoiusa.org/dangerous-flirting-russia-wonders-why-west-is-enamoured-with-socialism/#comment-25016 Sun, 08 Jul 2012 04:36:57 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=12004#comment-25016 In reply to Fr. John A. Peck.

Like the kind of “solid reasoning” that calls socialism “demonic”. Hmm.

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By: Fr. John A. Peck https://www.aoiusa.org/dangerous-flirting-russia-wonders-why-west-is-enamoured-with-socialism/#comment-25015 Sun, 08 Jul 2012 04:13:19 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=12004#comment-25015 In reply to Corneliu Ilea.

What nonsense. I know you probably believe what you are writing, Corneliu, but please try to understand that it is completely false in all its assumptions. Please, attempt solid reasoning before wandering in for debate that engenders more than name calling no matter how ‘nuanced’ it may be.

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By: Corneliu Ilea https://www.aoiusa.org/dangerous-flirting-russia-wonders-why-west-is-enamoured-with-socialism/#comment-25014 Sun, 08 Jul 2012 02:49:16 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=12004#comment-25014 In reply to Michael Bauman.

The Gospels are way more nuanced when it comes to family matters than conservatives today would allow. For them nuclear family is the sacred cow now. Only listening to some conservative voices out there one would think that God’s eternal purpose for humanity is to turn it into nice, white middle class suburban Americans or something.

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By: Michael Bauman https://www.aoiusa.org/dangerous-flirting-russia-wonders-why-west-is-enamoured-with-socialism/#comment-25012 Sun, 08 Jul 2012 00:30:06 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=12004#comment-25012 In reply to Corneliu Ilea.

Corneliu Ilea, the Gospel says nothing of the kind and I suspect you know that.

The sacrifice of natural human bonds for the Kingdom of Heaven is quite a bit different than the forced destruction of such bonds and the killing of innocent people for the sake of worldly power don’t you think? And God’s Kingdom is a bit more worth it than the false kingdom of the tryannical state.

God calls us to community to serve one another as we worship. The earthly locus of that community and how our faith is traditioned is the marriage of a man and a woman which produces children. It is holy, blessed and sanctified. What God has cleansed, let no man call unclean.

“I’d rather rule in Hell than serve in Paradise” is the mantra of the socialists/communisits/fascists. They set about,then, to make hell for everyone else so that they can have a place to rule.

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By: Fr. Johannes Jacobse https://www.aoiusa.org/dangerous-flirting-russia-wonders-why-west-is-enamoured-with-socialism/#comment-25011 Sun, 08 Jul 2012 00:11:18 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=12004#comment-25011 In reply to Corneliu Ilea.

Christ affirms the destruction of the family? Adam and Eve were a mistake?

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By: Fr. Johannes Jacobse https://www.aoiusa.org/dangerous-flirting-russia-wonders-why-west-is-enamoured-with-socialism/#comment-25010 Sun, 08 Jul 2012 00:10:39 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=12004#comment-25010 In reply to Corneliu Ilea.

From the article at least three but you can be sure they represent many more.

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By: Corneliu Ilea https://www.aoiusa.org/dangerous-flirting-russia-wonders-why-west-is-enamoured-with-socialism/#comment-25009 Sat, 07 Jul 2012 22:54:08 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=12004#comment-25009 Not only Marx, but Christ himself IIRC said that family is kinda repressive and it’s not the highest good for sure, at least that’s what the Gospels say.

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By: Corneliu Ilea https://www.aoiusa.org/dangerous-flirting-russia-wonders-why-west-is-enamoured-with-socialism/#comment-25008 Sat, 07 Jul 2012 22:47:58 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=12004#comment-25008 You mean to say “ONE Russian wonders…”, don’t you?

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By: Fr. John A. Peck https://www.aoiusa.org/dangerous-flirting-russia-wonders-why-west-is-enamoured-with-socialism/#comment-25006 Sat, 07 Jul 2012 20:11:48 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=12004#comment-25006 The west is not flirting with socialism. It’s charging towards it, deliberately.

I have no idea why any decent person would permit this, but I know what the elites want out of it.

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