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Comments on: Chick-Fil-A CEO is a Profile in Moral Courage https://www.aoiusa.org/chick-fil-a-ceo-is-a-profile-in-moral-courage/ A Research and Educational Organization that engages the cultural issues of the day within the Orthodox Christian Tradition Wed, 15 Aug 2012 20:44:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.3.3 By: Tomas https://www.aoiusa.org/chick-fil-a-ceo-is-a-profile-in-moral-courage/#comment-25532 Wed, 15 Aug 2012 20:44:00 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=12100#comment-25532 In reply to Fr. Johannes Jacobse.

Why? Obviously, it would have risked alienating a far greater number of people than just a few gay activists and their allies. As Orthodox, you’re free to interpret Scripture in accordance with your own traditions. However, many evangelicals consider divorce and remarriage a sin explicitly condemned in Scripture (as pastor Al Mohler clarifies) and would insist that these norms be reflected not just within the church but through the way marriage law is conducted by the state.

However, divorce and remarriage touches many, if not most, families (either directly or indirectly through extended family). Were someone to suggest these couples should not be permitted to remain within the church, that they were standing under the judgment of God or even that their civil marriages should be nullified, well … I’m thinking that they’d be considered a bit heartless, rightly or wrongly.

Either way, I stand by Mr Cathy’s ability to voice his beliefs without fear of reprisal from pandering politicians (whether I agree with him or not).

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By: Fr. Johannes Jacobse https://www.aoiusa.org/chick-fil-a-ceo-is-a-profile-in-moral-courage/#comment-25522 Wed, 15 Aug 2012 02:34:40 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=12100#comment-25522 In reply to Tomas.

Why would that be courageous?

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By: Michael Bauman https://www.aoiusa.org/chick-fil-a-ceo-is-a-profile-in-moral-courage/#comment-25507 Tue, 14 Aug 2012 04:20:38 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=12100#comment-25507 In reply to Tomas.

Ah, but Tomas, marriage, even marriage outside the Church or outside the Biblical norms, is not sin like homosexuality is sin or fornication is sin. When a marriage is commited to God in the proper context with humility and repentance, God can bring great blessing from it because of the union. A union that is, at least, in accord with the manner in which God created us. If a person has not committed adultery but been sinned against, is that cause for a lifetime of solitude or if a loving and faithful marriage is disrupted by the evil of death?

Failure to uphold the Biblical paradigm of marriage is certainly at the root of the glut of fornication and homosexuality just as abortion is at the root of the increasing violence in general, but especially against women and children.

The untethering of the sexual appetite from marriage is horrible as is the gender equality blasphemy that neuters men and makes women masculine and commends that we seek our own sex to placate the urges. Unholyness abounds but, at least in marriage, grace even more abounds and softens the hardest of hearts so that the joy of His presence is made known even though the yoke is not as pristine as it should be or as light.

I don’t know how or why God does what He does, but he blesses where and whom He blesses and what God has cleansed, call thou not unclean.

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By: Tomas https://www.aoiusa.org/chick-fil-a-ceo-is-a-profile-in-moral-courage/#comment-25503 Mon, 13 Aug 2012 03:21:23 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=12100#comment-25503 You know what would have been courageous? Dan Cathy telling “pro-family” Catholics and Orthodox that they were defying the very clear mandates of Scripture (Luke 16:18, Matthew 5:32, Matthew 19:9, Malachi 2:16) by blessing the second and third marriages of divorced heterosexuals and that these couples, because they were “shaking their fists at God”, should have their civil marriage licenses nullified.

Now THAT would have been interesting.

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By: Andrew https://www.aoiusa.org/chick-fil-a-ceo-is-a-profile-in-moral-courage/#comment-25501 Mon, 13 Aug 2012 02:13:00 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=12100#comment-25501 Fr. George, you must have missed the responsed of the Church and Society committee of the Episcopal Assembly to this issue:

You may find it HERE:

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By: Michael Bauman https://www.aoiusa.org/chick-fil-a-ceo-is-a-profile-in-moral-courage/#comment-25487 Sun, 12 Aug 2012 01:26:41 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=12100#comment-25487 I agree, it is an excellent reflection, a good place to start but should we not do more?

Among other things we should not single out homosexuality as the only sexual sin. Should we not also call to repentance the porn addicts, adulterers, fornicators and aborters in our midst? Is it not by facing our own sins in confession that true humility begins to grow?

Should not the call to repenatance be for other sins as well while at the same time we redouble our efforts to serve the poor and needy in our communities both as parishes and as private persons?

Is it not true that the more fully we reflect the reality of the Church by our visible virtue, the more powerful will be the calls to repentance and the more humble we will be?

My fear is that too many will mistake silence acquiesence to the way of the world as humility and compassion. Must we not also guard against that?

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By: Chris Banescu https://www.aoiusa.org/chick-fil-a-ceo-is-a-profile-in-moral-courage/#comment-25477 Sat, 11 Aug 2012 18:32:44 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=12100#comment-25477 Excellent reflection Fr. George. God bless your public witness to the Truth!

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By: Geo Michalopulos https://www.aoiusa.org/chick-fil-a-ceo-is-a-profile-in-moral-courage/#comment-25470 Sat, 11 Aug 2012 12:41:02 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=12100#comment-25470 Bravo, Fr George

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By: Orthodox Collective https://www.aoiusa.org/chick-fil-a-ceo-is-a-profile-in-moral-courage/#comment-25405 Sat, 11 Aug 2012 02:41:52 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=12100#comment-25405 […] Hagia Soph… »See All Of This Item By Clicking Here!« ☆ ☆ ☆ 2) Chick-Fil-A CEO is a Profile in Moral Couragehttps://www.aoiusa.org/chick-fil-a-ceo-is-a-profile-in-moral-courage/By Fr. Johannes Jacobse on […]

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