Comments on: All The Churches Are In Communion, Says OCA’s Metropolitan Jonah

By: Rev Fr Vasile Susan

Rev Fr Vasile Susan — Tue, 22 Jun 2010 17:14:00 +0000

Dear brother in Christ the Lord,

Mr Michalopoulos (sorry but this is the correct spelling of your Greek name … am I correct).

In order for you to properly find the correct answers to your questions I would like to respectfully direct you to this site http://www.pokrov.org, going on step by step as follow:

Step 1 … print on your computer http://www.pokrov.org … click ENTER

Step 2 … print on the upper left side rectangular square … vasile susan … click GO

Step 3 … click on this posting … 4/25/2010 Father Vasile Susan Sends Open Letter to Pokrov.org …

read as much as you can … or read everything … keep in mind to read at least the OPEN – LETTER, as well as EXHIBITS …S, B, H.
Step 4 … go and read more postings on http://www.pokrov.org regarding Rev Fr Vasile Susan …

As for your convenience I am posting the title of the OPEN – LETTER posted on http://www.pokrov.org as shown:

O P E N L E T T E R

c o n c e r n i n g

the OCA Hierarchy INFIDELITY / FAILURE to observe Biblical, Canonical, OCA Statute, ROEA Constitution and By – Laws provisions & procedures & Policies, Standards, Procedures of the OCA on Sexual Misconduct 2003, and the Order of Electing and Consecrating of a Bishop provisions, and a canonically grounded call for resignation of the OCA hierarchs and R.O.E.A. Archbishop complicit in cover up of the OCA – ROEA homosexuals = sodomites = clergymen

REV. FR. VASILE SUSAN IS BREAKING THE SILENCE AFTER MORE

THAN 6 YEARS OF O. C. A. INACTION AND LAWLESNESS

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Notes / Explanations / Clarifications / Personal Inputs / Comments, etc:

1 – This was a fantastic interview … done by Mr T. Kalmoukos … because TNH received information regarding the issue at stake: COVER UPS OF THE O.C.A. HOMOSEXUALS = SODOMITES CLERGYMEN, FOR SO LONG … via Internet … and Mr Kalmoukos went on http://www.pokrov.org, and following the reading of that site March, April 2010, postings, he openly and transparently did the interview.

As for +Phillip, the AAOAA Primate, he suspended one of his Bishops, according to the http://www.pokrov.org, and AAOAA records … issue without comments from me …

As for +Jonah, the OCA Primate, he is still compromising himself NOT WILLING to act as the OCA Primate, and show respect to the many issues he is facing at the present time, but not limited to the COVER UPS of the OCA homosexual = sodomites clergymen.

Both issues: HOMOSEXUALITY = SODOMY of the OCA clergymen, and the COVER UPS of the OCA OCA homosexuals = sodomites clergymen by the OCA Bishops, are UN – CANONICAL …

I am glad and very thankful to Mr Kalmoukos for being able to question both +Phillip and +Jonah, about this issue.

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2 – I’m curious however, Kalmoukos ends both this interview and last week’s with +Philip on a rather gross note (concerning homosexuality and pederasty) … The TNH interviewer had prior knowledge about this issue. He surprised so many people, including you all, not me. I am so glad the primates, responded as they wish, and they did well.

The AAOAA Primate +Phillip, is “IN LINE” regarding this issue, he is doing what he is saying.

The OCA Primate +Jonah, is “OFF LINE” regarding this issue, he is not doing what is saying.

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3 – Is he trying to telegraph something? … the answer is yes … Mt T Kalmoukos is telegraphing to the world (step by step) … more than so called “DUPLICITY, DOUBLE STANDARD, BREACH OF CANONICAL PROVISIONS” of the OCA Primate, +Jonah.

Is there “ANY CANONICAL PROVISIONS” or “ANY ORTHODOX CHURCH CHARTER PROVISIONS” … WHICH can make “THE NEW CONVERTS TO ORTHODOXY ELECTED BISHOPS EXEMPT” from observing or being in line of / with the Canonical provisions regarding the HOMOSEXUALS = SODOMITES, within the Orthodox Church in general or the O.C.A. specially? There is nothing like that, EVEN for the American Orthodoxy. Everything not in line with the canonical provision regarding this issue, is “NOTHING ELSE BUT ANOMALY, … including the O.C.A’s cover ups Un – Canonical practice, as well.

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4 – And if so, to whom? … the telegrapher = Mr T Kalmoukos … is telegraphing to the OCA Primate +Jonah … to be more serious in regards to this issue, and to be IN LINE, and NOT OFF LINE. Also the OCA Primate +Jonah should know that, there are “NO ANY CANONICAL PROVISIONS” or “ANY ORTHODOX CHURCH CHARTER PROVISIONS” … WHICH can make “THE NEW CONVERTS TO ORTHODOXY ELECTED BISHOPS EXEMPT” from observing or being in line of / with the Canonical provisions regarding the HOMOSEXUALS = SODOMITES within the Orthodox Church in general or the O.C.A. specially.

Mr T Kalmoukos, is the watch dog on this issue, at least for the OCA Primate +Jonah, … this is my impression at the present time. The name of that person Mr T Kalmoukos is thinking about, and is under the microscope lens, is the ROEA Archbishop, along with the OCA Synod, including +Jonah, as the OCA Primate, complicit in COVER UPS of the OCA homosexual = sodomites clergymen.

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5 – Anybody else pick up on that? … The above explanations, etc are … “FREE OF CHANGE at this time. However, I would like to get from you Mr G. Michalopoulos, the E-mail addresses of the OCL members, to be able to TELEGRAPH them more info regarding ONE of the OCL advisor members. My E-mail address is: vasilesusan@hotmail.com.

I hope “ALL THE ABOVE” satisfy you and many more.

Please reply to my E-mail address.

Sincerely,

In Christ the Lord,

Rev Fr Vasile Susan

By: George Michalopulos

George Michalopulos — Sat, 29 May 2010 14:30:10 +0000

This was a fantastic interview. I’m curious however, Kalmoukos ends both this interview and last week’s with +Philip on a rather gross note (concerning homosexuality and pederasty). Is he trying to telegraph something? And if so, to whom? Anybody else pick up on that?

By: George Michalopulos

George Michalopulos — Sat, 29 May 2010 14:26:52 +0000

In reply to Eliot Ryan.

Eliot, if this is so, and your analysis is trenchant, then Orthodoxy is not ready for America. In reality, I see no reason why christianization of Americans can’t proceed apace. The reality is far more complicated than an either christianize the paganized ethnics/or christianize the paganized Americans. Many ethnic Orthodox have returned to the Faith because of the missionary efforts to the non-Orthodox, either through convert missionaries or through a prick in their own consciences (a “eureka!” moment so to speak.

If I may, that’s one reason why what Frank Schaeffer is doing is so dangerous. By allying Orthodoxy with the secular Left (and there’s no other way than to put that), he’s damaging the spiritual witness of Orthodoxy. By labeling Evangelicals as “American Taliban” he’s driving an unnecessary wedge between many converts and cradles right through established parishes.

Anyway, I don’t want to spend time on Frank at present but instead wanted to address your larger point. There is no necessary dichotomy between evangelism per se and caring pastorally for established Orthodox Christians who’ve been secularized.

By: james

james — Sat, 29 May 2010 14:12:43 +0000

ARCHBISHOP NICOLAE..When I was called to serve as Archbishop for our Romanian Orthodox Archdiocese,had little experience of life in North America. I was raised and educated in Romania. I did graduate studies in Western Europe. While deeply grounded in our Orthodox faith in my Mother land, my experience of our Church outside of Romania was largely in France and Germany. As I assumed my duties here, I began to experience the richness and diversity of Church life in North America. To be sure, it is not the same as in a traditionally Orthodox setting, but it is genuine, alive, and full of the Holy Spirit. Many of you have either been raised or spent many years here. I have a different perspective coming here as I did. I was and am amazed by the depth of what I have found. There are difficulties – no one can deny this. Yet, there is also an energy and vitality to our North American Orthodox Christian experience that is to be treasured. As just one example, look at the way in which faithful lay persons have taken up Christ’s work here. The faithful of our parishes and dioceses have embraced the spirit of volunteerism that is the hallmark of our Canadian and American nations.

By: Eliot Ryan

Eliot Ryan — Sat, 29 May 2010 13:49:51 +0000

I do not think America is ready for a united Orthodox Church but it is certainly moving toward it. We have to face the facts. Foreign born/educated priests are the norm in ethnic dioceses. The ratio between foreign educated priests and native-born can be as high as 9 for every one native-born priest. The Apostles in their missionary journeys converted pagans. The mission of the “ethnic” priest here in US is to rechristianze “Christians”. Many of the Orthodox emigrants have mistaken the heavenly Kingdom for the materialistic world and sunk into a consumer frenzy.

The mission of a foreign educated priest is limited because of the difficulties surrounding language and the lack of understanding of U.S. Culture. Until the administrative unity of the Church is achieved, let us work on our own salvation and keep in touch … in front of the icons.