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Comments on: A Conversation with Bp. Savas https://www.aoiusa.org/a-conversation-with-bp-savas/ A Research and Educational Organization that engages the cultural issues of the day within the Orthodox Christian Tradition Sat, 11 Sep 2010 15:06:26 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.3.3 By: Fr. Johannes Jacobse https://www.aoiusa.org/a-conversation-with-bp-savas/#comment-13865 Sat, 11 Sep 2010 15:06:26 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=7644#comment-13865 Both of you should use last names or initials to distinguish yourselves.

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By: Andrew https://www.aoiusa.org/a-conversation-with-bp-savas/#comment-13863 Sat, 11 Sep 2010 14:00:13 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=7644#comment-13863 For the record, there really are two Andrews posting here……

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By: Andrew https://www.aoiusa.org/a-conversation-with-bp-savas/#comment-13855 Sat, 11 Sep 2010 05:45:44 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=7644#comment-13855 I personally find the views of Bishop Savas to be extremely refreshing and inspiring.

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By: George Michalopulos https://www.aoiusa.org/a-conversation-with-bp-savas/#comment-13821 Thu, 09 Sep 2010 23:21:32 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=7644#comment-13821 I too applaud Bishop Savvas for wanting to “engage the culture.” He strikes me as a Christian humanist and for this he needs to be encouraged. He should welcome mixing it up, otherwise it means nothing to the broader culture if he can’t take criticism. Lord knows, we do here in the blog and I think we’re all better for it. If he’s the spearhead of an episcopal vanguard, one that actually cares about America (and I for one believe he does), then I hope he’s encouraged.

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By: Anthony https://www.aoiusa.org/a-conversation-with-bp-savas/#comment-13820 Thu, 09 Sep 2010 23:12:05 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=7644#comment-13820 Amazing reminder by Fr. Andrew Stephen Damick quoting our beloved St. John Chrysostom who was persecuted by many Bishops and explicitly argued against the idea that forced altruism is morally efficacious:

Should we look to kings and princes to put right the inequalities between rich and poor? Should we require soldiers to come and seize the rich person’s gold and distribute it among his destitute neighbors? Should we beg the emperor to impose a tax on the rich so great that it reduces them to the level of the poor and then to share the proceeds of that tax among everyone?

Equality imposed by force would achieve nothing, and do much harm. Those who combined both cruel hearts and sharp minds would soon find ways of making themselves rich again. Worse still, the rich whose gold was taken away would feel bitter and resentful; while the poor who received the gold from the hands of soldiers would feel no gratitude, because no generosity would have prompted the gift.

Far from bringing moral benefit to society, it would actually do moral harm.

Material justice cannot be accomplished by compulsion, a change of heart will not follow. The only way to achieve true justice is to change people’s hearts first—and then they will joyfully share their wealth.

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By: George Michalopulos https://www.aoiusa.org/a-conversation-with-bp-savas/#comment-13806 Thu, 09 Sep 2010 11:17:21 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=7644#comment-13806 Andrew, well-said. What did you think about Michael’s most recent posting, that such occurrences are inevitable given the state of disunity in America?

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By: Andrew https://www.aoiusa.org/a-conversation-with-bp-savas/#comment-13800 Thu, 09 Sep 2010 02:36:26 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=7644#comment-13800 Father, you are to be commended for taking the moral high road in this situation. Would it be too much to ask Bishop Savas to offer and apology and clarification on his facebook page for all the confusion and offense he caused with his support Liberation Theology and of Human Rights Watch as a “good cause”. If this discussion is to be dialed down then His Grace should certainly do his part on his end of the blogosphere.

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