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Comments on: A Black Day: Supreme Folly from the Supremes [AUDIO] https://www.aoiusa.org/a-black-day-supreme-folly-from-the-supremes/ A Research and Educational Organization that engages the cultural issues of the day within the Orthodox Christian Tradition Fri, 21 Aug 2015 05:21:35 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.3.3 By: cynthia curran https://www.aoiusa.org/a-black-day-supreme-folly-from-the-supremes/#comment-225355 Fri, 21 Aug 2015 05:21:35 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=13988#comment-225355 In reply to Dove Weed.

I like what you said, a lot of so-called conservatives are 19th century liberals.

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By: Brian https://www.aoiusa.org/a-black-day-supreme-folly-from-the-supremes/#comment-224630 Sat, 15 Aug 2015 22:05:20 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=13988#comment-224630 In reply to Dove Weed.

“So what then — armed conflict?”

No. Persecution and martyrdom – out of which will come either the resurrection of sanity or the end of the age.

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By: Dove Weed https://www.aoiusa.org/a-black-day-supreme-folly-from-the-supremes/#comment-223897 Mon, 10 Aug 2015 12:37:20 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=13988#comment-223897 So where were these “dissenting” justices when SCOTUS declared that legal fictions, “corporations”, are persons?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._FEC
Person has been understood for 2 millennia as “human”, and not just any human, but one that has/or is developing union/communion with God.
Ruling that business organizations are “persons” is an abomination, an assault on the Personhood of God and on humanity created in that image and likeness of God.
SCOTUS is deluded not only by some justices from the “left”, but by those from the “right” also who dissent from the “left” on some things while creating their own set of delusions with others.
Where is the “prophecy” of the effect of the perversion of “person” on the Orthodox Christian community, aka the Church?
Calvin Coolidge said that the business of America is business. Milton Friedman said that the business of America is business. Period.
If homosexual “marriage” were a threat to business [American mammon worship], then there is no way it would pass SCOTUS. Marriage “equality” or any “equality” is a non-issue as far as the American ruling elite is concerned, except when it comes to stirring up useful idiots for keeping the focus off business and what’s really of consequence in America.
See – The Incorporation of America by Alan Trachtenberg http://xroads.virginia.edu/~HYPER/INCORP/cover.html
and Virgin Land by Henry Nash Smith http://xroads.virginia.edu/~HYPER/HNS/hns_home.html
And if you think “judicial putsch” is something “new”, then brush up on your American history, particularly of John Marshall.
Judicial “putsch” is much older than the USA, and nothing “foreign” here, having been inherited from England.
http://xroads.virginia.edu/~Hyper/Parrington/vol2/bk01_01_ch03.HTML
Same old fallen humanity.
The old English nobility and aristocracy died to make the new French oligarchy king.
We serfs were freed at last to be ensnared again to the wages of sin.

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By: Dove Weed https://www.aoiusa.org/a-black-day-supreme-folly-from-the-supremes/#comment-223795 Sun, 09 Aug 2015 20:50:57 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=13988#comment-223795 So what’s it going to be? The usual “culture war” castigating, crying in beer, and singing to the choir?
There’s been thousands upon thousands of posts like this with comments always the same.
Considering what’s been passed off for “christianity” in America, reiterating that same ole “christianity” isn’t going to persuade any sinner to change their tune who thinks “I’m OK, you’re OK”. That’s the ultimate definition of stupidity, doing the same thing over and over with same lack of desired result.
So what then — armed conflict? After which retrograding to Calvinistic Puritanism to reinstate yet another utopian theocracy?
If you want to catch a fox, you have to think like a fox.
If you don’t really know how the USA got to this point and only “think” you do you’re wasting your time on ineffectiveness and cluelessness.
Hint: It’s not because of the strawman lib bogeyman. Liberalism resulted in Abolitionism and Industrial “Revolution” as well as Sexual Revolution and Socialism. One man’s liberalism is another’s conservatism. The only actual conservatives who aren’t “liberals” are monarchs and aristocrats (landed gentry) of the 18th century, and they’re all dead and gone.
Start at the beginning, with genesis —
The American Adam: Innocence, Tragedy and Tradition in the Nineteenth Century by R.W.B. Lewis (archive.org)
And trek back to frolic with the Puritans and witness reaction and outgrowth from their Calvinism (especially note Luther vs Calvin).
Main Currents in American Thought by Vernon L. Parrington (http://xroads.virginia.edu/~HYPER/hypertex.html_)
“That the immigrant Puritans brought in their intellectual luggage the system of Calvin rather than of Luther [not to mention of Eastern Orthodoxy! like in Alaska] must be reckoned a misfortune, out of which flowed many of the bickerings and much of the intolerance that left a stain on the pages of early New England history.”
Then sit at the feet of Daniel Bell — The Cultural Contradictions of Capitalism
The consumer system would probably fall apart without promotion of “liberal” licentiousness in order to sell all that “overproduction” from conservative corporatism by way of crass sensual appeal — byproduct (“buy product”) of American Adam’s “to thine own “self” be true” individualism, “self-made” nonsense, what’s true is true for me, etc. etc. ad nauseum that’s been made essential to serving the marketing of crony economics.
Morally weak subjects (there are no citizens any more) make for absolute best consumers.
Roman bread and circus is still alive and well after several millennia.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Not this fallen world, but Divine Providence alone is conservative.

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By: James Bradshaw https://www.aoiusa.org/a-black-day-supreme-folly-from-the-supremes/#comment-223549 Fri, 07 Aug 2015 22:37:41 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=13988#comment-223549 “Gay activists. . .would like to see in twenty years the government to regulate all reproduction. ”

I don’t know about that. I do know that it has been proposed that repeat sex offenders (particularly child molesters and rapists) be required to be sterilized.

This (admittedly more extremist) Christian site seems to support actual castration. You should read the comments. Hoo boy.

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By: Christopher https://www.aoiusa.org/a-black-day-supreme-folly-from-the-supremes/#comment-223216 Wed, 05 Aug 2015 22:24:11 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=13988#comment-223216 Well well. I can think of a number of Orthodox priests who would call this “prophecy” , unfounded and ungrounded “overreaction”, even scaremongering and that is from “dark thoughts” that are from the devil himself. I point out clergy simply because they of all folks they should see what is happening (given that they have been to seminary and have what ought to be a real “understanding” of the Faith and its implications). In any case, I would rather see more of this sort of thing than the frankly “impotent” preaching and stance I have seen from many of the clergy. Perhaps they are pressured by their “progressive” and oh so “compassionate” parishioners??

As for Fr. Josiah, even if his “prophecy” turns out to be overstated, he is certainly right about the place of the “sexual revolution” in all this and how the vast majority of the Faithful are hardly any different than their “secular” brother and sisters in our acquiescence in it.

One good thing to come from this calamity: My wife is finally ready to discontent the TV. Just in time I think, as my oldest is now six…

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By: Edward A. Hara https://www.aoiusa.org/a-black-day-supreme-folly-from-the-supremes/#comment-223104 Wed, 05 Aug 2015 02:35:23 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=13988#comment-223104 You people at St. Andrew have a wonderful priest. This is simply outstanding truth.

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