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Comments on: Letter from William Souvall, OCL President, to the Assembly of Canonical Orthodox Christian Bishops https://www.aoiusa.org/9904/ A Research and Educational Organization that engages the cultural issues of the day within the Orthodox Christian Tradition Thu, 28 Apr 2011 15:11:06 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.3.3 By: Scott Pennington https://www.aoiusa.org/9904/#comment-19942 Thu, 28 Apr 2011 15:11:06 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=9904#comment-19942 Yawn.

“People walking sideways, pretending that they’re leading . . . ”

The Assemblies (or whatever they’re calling them this week) deserve to be ignored in toto. The reason is that no jurisdiction besides the OCA (and that is certainly not uniform within the OCA) has any intention of this turning into a united autocephalous Orthodox Church. Not the slightest intention.

The whole thing was concocted to give the appearance that the patriarchs and their American hierarchs are moving toward climbing some tall hill to a united American church, whether autonomous under Constantinople or autocephalous. The truth is that if the will was actually there, it could be done and over with in 6 months.

Autonomy under Constantinople is probably a non-starter for the OCA and ROCOR. Autocephaly is a non-starter for Constantinople and, under its present leadership, the AOC.

In short, the whole thing is a thinly veiled lie, nothing more. What you will see is an indefinite churning of a bureaucracy that leads to nowhere. That’s all you’ve seen so far because the principals have no remote intention of getting to the point they say they wish to reach.

It reminds me of Augustine’s statement, “Lord, grant me chastity and continence – – but not yet.”

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By: Harry Coin https://www.aoiusa.org/9904/#comment-19939 Thu, 28 Apr 2011 13:39:45 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=9904#comment-19939 Unity under a foreign power would lead to more loss and less growth than our present divisions along ethnic origin lines. Our present circumstance rightly reflects the natural immigration patterns from overseas to here. Folk looking from the outside in do not indict Orthodox disunity because they feel, mostly correctly, we did the best we could as we learned English and made our lives.

But if we choose to ‘come together’ in the context of submission to remote administration by a foreign power, we will be seen, correctly, as freely choosing without the budens of new immigrants and with full knowledge and ability to choose otherwise, to distort ecclesiology in favor of geopolitical ethnic entanglements. A church with ‘Orthodox’ in the title can expect to die quickly if the doing doesn’t reflect the title on the door.

Those who wanted an ordained young never married pope or group of ethnic overseas popes can already go to many places that offer that. We’re late to that party and it isn’t one our own preaching suggests we ought to join.

The right path is for the varous groups to gain autocephaly or something like it, then coalesce with those already similarly situated.

The goal, if we want to grow and not close the church doors as we marry our neighbors, is to remain in communion with all while choosing our own leadership here.

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By: George Michalopulos https://www.aoiusa.org/9904/#comment-19936 Thu, 28 Apr 2011 12:04:34 +0000 https://www.aoiusa.org/?p=9904#comment-19936 Maybe we Orthodox in America aren’t ready for the prime-time. If anything, Bill’s letter is just as much an indictment of the laity as it is among the hierarchy.

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