The Times, They Are a-Changing

Victor Davis Hanson’s brief synopsis below also affects Constantinople and may help explain why it is so anxious to direct the American Church.

The Corner

At the present rate, Turkey has about as much business in NATO as Greece does in the EU. Both countries seem out of place in their respective organizations; both envy and resent northern Europe and the United States, and seek their attention through petulance; and both seem to traffic daily in conspiracy theories about going to war against each other.

The problem with both the EU and NATO is that, while there is always much gala celebration about who gets in and under what particular conditions, there is almost no attention given to the circumstances under which a member gets out of either organization. That will change in the next few years, given southern European debt, growing Islamization, and the apparent planned financial and military regression of the West.

In the meantime, we should pay attention to a growing concern in the southeastern Mediterranean: A bankrupt Greece has alienated its patrons in northern Europe, has alienated the U.S. through years of anti-American rhetoric, has little or no financial resources, and will be facing cutbacks in its military — and a newly assertive Turkey is carving out a position of influence in the region as the real, and far more serious, representative of Islamic government, perhaps in the fashion of the old Ottomans.


  1. George Michalopulos

    As usual, Hanson is right on target. What does this mean for the Orthodox commonwealth? It’s up to us here in America to decide if we are Americans or captive to a Byzantine nostalgia.

  2. Btw, Theodore Dalrymple has a great article out

    Sympathy Deformed
    Misguided compassion hurts the poor.

  3. Fr. Johannes Jacobse

    City Journal is one of the best reads around. Thanks for the heads up.

  4. cynthia curran

    Well, Hanson being a classicists knows the Greeks better than most us. As for the Orthodox liking the old Medieval Romans-that what Byzantines basically our, that civilzation eventually made mistakes that weaken its defense-the Theodosian Walls couldn’t withstand cannon balls or like their ancient Roman cousins who allowed too many Germans in their military hierarchy they are both passed away. We better care enough in the US or we will end up like the ancient Romans and the medieval ones.

    • George Michalopulos

      excellent point Cynthia. The loss of American sovereignty through untrammelled illegal immigration is one of the similarities between latter-day Rome and ourselves. Others include loss of piety, morality, debasement of our coinage, etc.

  5. cynthia curran

    Good point in the city journal on education-the us also thought the state should provide education. This is why middle class americans supported Obama on Healthcare, since most of these folks have the state provide their children education are private alternatives are more expensive and home schooling doesn’t work in every family situation but no one has provided an alterative in that area.

  6. I missed the part where he said that the American economy was doing any better than Greece’s. Immigration is a problem, but nutso spending is also over the top regardless of which party is in power.

    I think it is time the Church start talking about minimalism or suggest that the United States, as a nation and government, start fasting 🙂

  7. cynthia curran

    Well, I don’t agree with all the platform of a 4th party right wing party in Greece. Read about them online at Hellenic Stripes but Greece has had an illegal problem as well and that party is trying to bring it up naturally, the socialist are not interested.

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